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> I'm guessing bankruptcy has always been the plan Why? What advantage would that bring to him? Honest question. With him overpaying for Twitter already (mayb

> I'm guessing bankruptcy has always been the plan Why? What advantage would that bring to him? Honest question. With him overpaying for Twitter already (maybe not completely voluntary), bankruptcy looks like the fastest way to make the deal even worse.

sprkwd 4y ago
Won't have to pay a Billion Dollars a year in interest.
- Sebb767 4y ago
  How so? Either those loans are attached to Twitter (as I think they are), in which case his investment going to zero is still the worst thing that can happen, or they are attached to his wealth directly, in which case he will need to pay either way.
mywittyname 4y ago
> Why? It doesn't take a financial wizard to realize that Twitter was insolvent from the day it was purchased. Saddling a company with an interest payment that's nearly double revenue is a clear indication to me that the time period from purchase-to-bankruptcy was going to be measured in months. So we can be pretty confident that everyone involved with this purchase was expecting Twitter to die quickly. You and I are on the same page. But the "why" is not "why would they make such a poor financial choice," since it's clear the answer to that is "to kill Twitter." The why is really, "why bother killing Twitter?" I get Musk's reasoning, but I don't understand what his co-investors get out of the deal. Authoritarian regimes benefit from having dissidents operate on a centralized platform, because it's easier to monitor. Killing twitter pushes these groups out to platforms that are going to be decentralized and impossible to block. It's weakening their grip, not reinforcing it. My best guess is that they assumed that Musk would stay on post bankruptcy and act as their pro-authoritarian sock puppet. But they didn't anticipate his complete ineptitude would drive users off the platform in such numbers.
CaptainZapp 4y ago
> maybe not completely voluntary Why would you say that? He signed a binding agreement to buy Twitter at an agreed upon price. Nobody forced him to sign that, ergo: he completely voluntarily signed a binding agreement on which he later wanted to renege.
- Sebb767 4y ago
  By the time he signed the agreement, it was voluntary. By the time ge actually bought it, it looked a lot like he'd rather not. This is not to defend Musk in any way, it's just a statement of facts.

sprkwd 4y ago

Won't have to pay a Billion Dollars a year in interest.

Sebb767 4y ago
How so? Either those loans are attached to Twitter (as I think they are), in which case his investment going to zero is still the worst thing that can happen, or they are attached to his wealth directly, in which case he will need to pay either way.

mywittyname 4y ago

> Why? It doesn't take a financial wizard to realize that Twitter was insolvent from the day it was purchased. Saddling a company with an interest payment that's nearly double revenue is a clear indication to me that the time period from purchase-to-bankruptcy was going to be measured in months. So we can be pretty confident that everyone involved with this purchase was expecting Twitter to die quickly. You and I are on the same page. But the "why" is not "why would they make such a poor financial choice," since it's clear the answer to that is "to kill Twitter." The why is really, "why bother killing Twitter?" I get Musk's reasoning, but I don't understand what his co-investors get out of the deal. Authoritarian regimes benefit from having dissidents operate on a centralized platform, because it's easier to monitor. Killing twitter pushes these groups out to platforms that are going to be decentralized and impossible to block. It's weakening their grip, not reinforcing it. My best guess is that they assumed that Musk would stay on post bankruptcy and act as their pro-authoritarian sock puppet. But they didn't anticipate his complete ineptitude would drive users off the platform in such numbers.

CaptainZapp 4y ago

> maybe not completely voluntary Why would you say that? He signed a binding agreement to buy Twitter at an agreed upon price. Nobody forced him to sign that, ergo: he completely voluntarily signed a binding agreement on which he later wanted to renege.

Sebb767 4y ago
By the time he signed the agreement, it was voluntary. By the time ge actually bought it, it looked a lot like he'd rather not. This is not to defend Musk in any way, it's just a statement of facts.