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Oh, so you can provide another example of Elon directly saying he would do X and then turning around and doing not-X a month or so later with no sort of interve

Oh, so you can provide another example of Elon directly saying he would do X and then turning around and doing not-X a month or so later with no sort of intervening events that would justify an about-face? I can't think of any.

BlargMcLarg 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.#Musk's_promises https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.#Musk'... seems like a good start. The rabbit hole itself certainly goes far deeper than anyone could traverse in a few hours.
pjc50 4y ago
(gestures at Twitter in general, and the recision of self driving)
- BuildTheRobots 4y ago
  "Self driving? We can already do this today!" "All the houses in this picture? They've already got our solar roof tiles fitted!" (they didn't) "Everything Hyperloop!" My issue with Musk isn't that he changes his mind based on new evidence, or even oversells promises of the future. It's the fact he's willing to stand in front of a crowd, look people in the eye and _flat_out_lie_ about what state things are in today.
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mozumder 4y ago
devmor 4y ago
I think it would be easier to list all of the significant commitments Elon has not turned face (or at least tried to turn face) on. I can't think of one, can you?
pilsetnieks 4y ago
> Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. > No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes. > 9:18 PM · Oct 28, 2022 > The people have spoken. > Trump will be reinstated. > Vox Populi, Vox Dei. > 2:53 AM · Nov 20, 2022
- yanderekko 4y ago
  Was the council never formed, or did it never convene?
  - erik_landerholm 4y ago
    Yes
dragontamer 4y ago
He won't buy Twitter because it has a bot problem. Just kidding, he will buy Twitter and turn it into the everything app and it will be awesome. September 2022 vs October 2022 -------- Elon will fire 75% of Twitter October statement. Elon will not fire most of Twitter (November). Look, stupid media was tricked by Rahul Ligma. Elon fires 75% of Twitter (December)
- yanderekko 4y ago
  >He won't buy Twitter because it has a bot problem. I'm not asking for examples of Musk being wrong about something and correcting himself. I think it's commonly assumed that Musk discovered that this argument would not hold up in court, so he pivoted accordingly. >Elon will not fire most of Twitter (November). Look, stupid media was tricked by Rahul Ligma. This is a better example. Could you link a statement to this effect directly?
  - dragontamer 4y ago
    > I'm not asking for examples of Musk being wrong about something and correcting himself. He literally signed a document in March to buy Twitter, and literally a month later had to be sued to be forced to finish the contract. How many times does he have to change his mind before you accept this fact? The number of times he two-faced flip flopped on the Twitter buyout is insane. I've lost count of examples.
    - yanderekko 4y ago
      >He literally signed a document in March to buy Twitter, and literally a month later had to be sued to be forced to finish the contract. Yes, and the intervening event that justifies the narrative flip is that he got increased access to Twitter's internal systems and decided that the company had deeper issues than initially appreciated. Rejecting a purchase where there's a hidden defect is not flip-flopping, the fact that you can't see the obvious weakness of this example is telling. btw, where's the statement that Elon said that he would not be firing most of Twitter? Again, that seems to be a much better example.... if you can provide it. But maybe you can't?

BlargMcLarg 4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.#Musk's_promises https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.#Musk'... seems like a good start. The rabbit hole itself certainly goes far deeper than anyone could traverse in a few hours.

pjc50 4y ago

(gestures at Twitter in general, and the recision of self driving)

BuildTheRobots 4y ago
"Self driving? We can already do this today!" "All the houses in this picture? They've already got our solar roof tiles fitted!" (they didn't) "Everything Hyperloop!" My issue with Musk isn't that he changes his mind based on new evidence, or even oversells promises of the future. It's the fact he's willing to stand in front of a crowd, look people in the eye and _flat_out_lie_ about what state things are in today.

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mozumder 4y ago

devmor 4y ago

I think it would be easier to list all of the significant commitments Elon has not turned face (or at least tried to turn face) on. I can't think of one, can you?

pilsetnieks 4y ago

> Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. > No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes. > 9:18 PM · Oct 28, 2022 > The people have spoken. > Trump will be reinstated. > Vox Populi, Vox Dei. > 2:53 AM · Nov 20, 2022

yanderekko 4y ago
Was the council never formed, or did it never convene?
- erik_landerholm 4y ago
  Yes

dragontamer 4y ago

He won't buy Twitter because it has a bot problem. Just kidding, he will buy Twitter and turn it into the everything app and it will be awesome. September 2022 vs October 2022 -------- Elon will fire 75% of Twitter October statement. Elon will not fire most of Twitter (November). Look, stupid media was tricked by Rahul Ligma. Elon fires 75% of Twitter (December)

yanderekko 4y ago
>He won't buy Twitter because it has a bot problem. I'm not asking for examples of Musk being wrong about something and correcting himself. I think it's commonly assumed that Musk discovered that this argument would not hold up in court, so he pivoted accordingly. >Elon will not fire most of Twitter (November). Look, stupid media was tricked by Rahul Ligma. This is a better example. Could you link a statement to this effect directly?
- dragontamer 4y ago
  > I'm not asking for examples of Musk being wrong about something and correcting himself. He literally signed a document in March to buy Twitter, and literally a month later had to be sued to be forced to finish the contract. How many times does he have to change his mind before you accept this fact? The number of times he two-faced flip flopped on the Twitter buyout is insane. I've lost count of examples.
  - yanderekko 4y ago
    >He literally signed a document in March to buy Twitter, and literally a month later had to be sued to be forced to finish the contract. Yes, and the intervening event that justifies the narrative flip is that he got increased access to Twitter's internal systems and decided that the company had deeper issues than initially appreciated. Rejecting a purchase where there's a hidden defect is not flip-flopping, the fact that you can't see the obvious weakness of this example is telling. btw, where's the statement that Elon said that he would not be firing most of Twitter? Again, that seems to be a much better example.... if you can provide it. But maybe you can't?