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> All the Google+ hate sort of puzzles me Because Google became evil. Remember when Microsoft pre-installed IE in windows? It's the same thing when Google plac

> All the Google+ hate sort of puzzles me Because Google became evil. Remember when Microsoft pre-installed IE in windows? It's the same thing when Google placed G+ in gmail.

ikirill 15y ago
I'm afraid I don't follow. Could you elaborate on how that means they became evil?
- chancho 15y ago
  Because Google has a monopoly on non-shitty free email with GMail, in the same way that Microsoft has (had?) a monopoly on hardware-independent operating systems with DOS/Windows. (I wish I was really being sarcastic, you know because there are actually a billion web-based e-mail alternatives besides GMail that actually don't suck... right? Anybody know of any? At this point I'm earnestly inquiring.)
  - onemoreact 15y ago
    Gmail might be 'the best', but not enough to get a everyone to switch. So, IMO it's a question of where your suck threshold than anything specifically wrong with Hotmail / yahoo.
melling 15y ago
I do remember... Microsoft had 95% of desktop market share and installed IE on everyone's PC, which they claimed was part of the operating system. This essentially killed the browser competition for about a decade and Netscape got crushed. Now how is this comparable to Google placing G+ in Gmail? Gmail is smaller than Hotmail and Yahoo Mail? They are a distant third.
mstz 15y ago
I think that comparison is a bit off. Internet Explorer cannot be removed without damaging Windows or affecting other programs which depend on Internet Explorer's files. You also said yourself it is "pre-installed". You are not required to be a Google+ user in order to use Gmail, and you obviously won't see integrations in Gmail unless you have a Google+ account.
resnamen 15y ago
Easy - don't create a Google profile. Did you create a Google profile by accident? https://plus.google.com/settings/ https://plus.google.com/settings/ , click "Delete profile and remove associated Google+ features". Voila, done. Your Gmail is pristine and the chip on your shoulder has surely vanished.

> All the Google+ hate sort of puzzles me Because Google became evil. Remember when Microsoft pre-installed IE in windows? It's the same thing when Google placed G+ in gmail.

ikirill 15y ago

I'm afraid I don't follow. Could you elaborate on how that means they became evil?

chancho 15y ago
Because Google has a monopoly on non-shitty free email with GMail, in the same way that Microsoft has (had?) a monopoly on hardware-independent operating systems with DOS/Windows. (I wish I was really being sarcastic, you know because there are actually a billion web-based e-mail alternatives besides GMail that actually don't suck... right? Anybody know of any? At this point I'm earnestly inquiring.)
- onemoreact 15y ago
  Gmail might be 'the best', but not enough to get a everyone to switch. So, IMO it's a question of where your suck threshold than anything specifically wrong with Hotmail / yahoo.

melling 15y ago

I do remember... Microsoft had 95% of desktop market share and installed IE on everyone's PC, which they claimed was part of the operating system. This essentially killed the browser competition for about a decade and Netscape got crushed. Now how is this comparable to Google placing G+ in Gmail? Gmail is smaller than Hotmail and Yahoo Mail? They are a distant third.

mstz 15y ago

I think that comparison is a bit off. Internet Explorer cannot be removed without damaging Windows or affecting other programs which depend on Internet Explorer's files. You also said yourself it is "pre-installed". You are not required to be a Google+ user in order to use Gmail, and you obviously won't see integrations in Gmail unless you have a Google+ account.

resnamen 15y ago

Easy - don't create a Google profile. Did you create a Google profile by accident? https://plus.google.com/settings/ https://plus.google.com/settings/ , click "Delete profile and remove associated Google+ features". Voila, done. Your Gmail is pristine and the chip on your shoulder has surely vanished.