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Electron, WebKit, nope. Kudos for experimenting with minimalism! But this is not the alternative to Firefox I've been looking for.
by sshine 4y ago
Electron, WebKit, nope.
Kudos for experimenting with minimalism!
But this is not the alternative to Firefox I've been looking for.
- latexr 4y ago> Electron, WebKit, nope. Electron uses Chromium. Which uses Blink, not WebKit.
- moffkalast 4y agoWell the worst part of Firefox is arguably Gecko. If one could make a browser with Firefox's backend and instead render with Blink that would be pretty dope.
- khuey 4y ago> a browser with Firefox's backend and instead render with Blink Gecko is Firefox's "backend" ...
- moffkalast 4y agoIsn't it just the rendering engine? There's more to a browser than just laying out html.
- rollcat 4y agoA browser is not a web app, it doesn't have a strict separation of "frontend" and "backend" in the same sense that a web app would have; the lines are drawn quite differently. The rendering engine is never "just" the rendering engine; you can't abstract or swap it without tremendous effort. If you'd like to learn more about how a web browser project would organize its internal architecture, but are discouraged by the complexity of Chromium, Firefox, etc. I'd recommend source diving Ladybird (https://github.com/SerenityOS/ladybird https://github.com/SerenityOS/ladybird), NetSurf (https://www.netsurf-browser.org/ https://www.netsurf-browser.org/), or Dillo (https://www.dillo.org/ https://www.dillo.org/).
- wongarsu 4y agoToo bad Mozilla gave up on Servo.
- Tagbert 4y agoServo was a working prototype to try out the rendering changes and Rust. Those changes are being / have been integrated into Firefox.
- the_third_wave 4y agoIt is Blink which drives the monoculture more than Chrome/Chromium since it is there that standards are made or broken (or flouted). What is needed is competition in this space, a new browser 'engine' to compete with Blink (Chrome/Chromium/Brave/Vivaldi/Edge/etc.), Gecko (Firefox/Seamonkey/etc) and Webkit (Safari/Epiphany/anything on iThings). Maybe Servo can be rescued from oblivion? Get Mozilla to dump their activist-CEO (who is more concerned with her own remuneration and virtue signalling than with the development of their core product), use the funds thus saved to hire back all those developers which were let go under her reign and get Servo back on track. Blink is the one layout engine to rule them all after all... Ash Blink durbatulûk ash Blink gimbatul, Ash Blink thrakatulûk agh Google-ishi krimpatul
- jfk13 4y ago> standards are made or broken (or flaunted) I think you may have meant "flouted" there? Though sometimes flaunting a standard might also be a thing.
- the_third_wave 4y agoYes, corrected, flouted it shall be.
- unsafecast 4y agoYeah, let's feed the monopoly! Surely a good way to get better products.
- dev_tty01 4y agoBlink is a fork of WebKit.
- latexr 4y agoIt is a fork started a decade ago, hence not the same thing. Just like Webkit is not the same as KHTML, which it forked.
- thesuitonym 4y agoYou've got me curious, what are you looking for in an alternative?
- antihero 4y agoFirefox but with Servo
- leidenfrost 4y agoThe most sincere answer would be: "A fast and modern browser with privacy at max, light and fast, with with linux/BSD in mind, by some magical entity that somehow gets enough money with donations, where they let me to donate without disclosing my identity but not with crypto because I'm against crypto".
- sshine 4y agoExactly! Except for the virtue signalling around crypto. :-)