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You're the bad faith actor here. You come to conclusion with zero facts.
by fleddr 4y ago
You're the bad faith actor here. You come to conclusion with zero facts.
- SilverBirch 4y agoThe benefit of the doubt is something you generally give someone the first time they do something seemingly wrong or disingenuous. For example, the first time someone makes a baseless claim that someone they don't like is a pedophile, you might go "Well, that guy might know something I don't..." but when that person goes on to act like an asshole for the next decade, at some point you have to stop giving the benefit of the doubt. Do you still give Musk the benefit of the doubt about the moderation council he's planning to form before he lets Trump back on the platform?
- fleddr 4y agoThis isn't about any benefit of the doubt, this is about confidently dropping conclusions on incomplete information. That's hysterical speculation, not "benefit of the doubt". Further, no, I don't pass judgement on every single action or word somebody expressed based on prior behavior. This creates Disney-like villains, which is for the simple minded.
- SilverBirch 4y agoI mean... this comment thread is literally about whether it's reasonable to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not "hysterical" to say the guy we know the guy didn't like the account, he'd tried to get it removed before, and despite him saying he wouldn't remove it, he probably has, because he's lied before. You're reading a load of emotion into something that doesn't have to be emotional. It's just a pretty obvious point that once you give someone the benefit of the doubt and they showed they don't deserve it, you probably shouldn't give it to them again. Otherwise, as one of the previous posters pointed out, you're going to continually reserve judgement against what is clearly a bad actor. It's a pretty simple point about an iterated game.
- fleddr 4y agoThe point is indeed simple: you don't know. In the period when you don't know something, the rational thing is to wait until you do. Everything else is speculation. You're free to speculate as much as you want, but it's just guess work. The only thing I objected to is to turn guess work into confident conclusions, and presenting them as fact.
- SilverBirch 4y agoWhat I’m saying is we know enough. This isn’t a court of law, we’re allowed to surmise what is true from the facts we know.
- CrimsonRain 4y ago
- roflyear 4y agoWhat do you suppose the jet account did to get banned?
- fleddr 4y agoI don't know, which is the entire point. If we don't know, we can't judge.