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The title is partly wrong (badly translated). Actual emergency services still function and have capacity. What is full/out of capacity is walking into the clin

by doikor 4y ago

The title is partly wrong (badly translated). Actual emergency services still function and have capacity. What is full/out of capacity is walking into the clinic with smaller issues. Basically if you don't have some immediately life threatening condition it is very likely that you will be sent to another hospital (or told to come back later). Obviously doing this can also have some very bad patient outcomes. This is partly also due to the fact that the emergency services know what hospital has space and route the ambulance to one that has space. A normal person walking in does not know that. Here is roughly the same article in Finnish https://yle.fi/a/74-20008425 https://yle.fi/a/74-20008425

dezgeg 4y ago
Not sure if I got the same interpretation (both languages on YLE and HS one seem quite ambiguous). My interpretation I got is Jorvi cannot even admit in patients from ambulances for urgent care, wheras Töölö, Peijas and Hyvinkää have all beds full.
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jks 4y ago
Some emergency rooms are full because there is no place to send patients for further care. The emergency room is not supposed to be a place to spend a lot of time, they just treat your immediate life-threatening problem and then send you either home or to a hospital bed. But when hospital beds and elderly care units are full, the patients stay in the emergency rooms. I suspect (but do not know for certain) that part of the reason is the big social and healthcare reform that is to take place in 2023. The responsibility for arranging healthcare lies on municipalities and is going to be transferred to new, euphemistically named "wellbeing services counties". This means that each municipality loses some funds from their budget, and the amount depends on their social-services and healthcare budgets for 2022. This means that keeping the budget artificially low this year means they have more money available for other purposes next year (schools, roads, libraries, what have you). Here's an article (in Finnish) from 2021 discussing this risk: https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/21899c53-d959-4383-a759-25ceee30cc7c https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/21899c53-d959-4383-a75...

by doikor 4y ago

dezgeg 4y ago

Not sure if I got the same interpretation (both languages on YLE and HS one seem quite ambiguous). My interpretation I got is Jorvi cannot even admit in patients from ambulances for urgent care, wheras Töölö, Peijas and Hyvinkää have all beds full.

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jks 4y ago

Some emergency rooms are full because there is no place to send patients for further care. The emergency room is not supposed to be a place to spend a lot of time, they just treat your immediate life-threatening problem and then send you either home or to a hospital bed. But when hospital beds and elderly care units are full, the patients stay in the emergency rooms. I suspect (but do not know for certain) that part of the reason is the big social and healthcare reform that is to take place in 2023. The responsibility for arranging healthcare lies on municipalities and is going to be transferred to new, euphemistically named "wellbeing services counties". This means that each municipality loses some funds from their budget, and the amount depends on their social-services and healthcare budgets for 2022. This means that keeping the budget artificially low this year means they have more money available for other purposes next year (schools, roads, libraries, what have you). Here's an article (in Finnish) from 2021 discussing this risk: https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/21899c53-d959-4383-a759-25ceee30cc7c https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/21899c53-d959-4383-a75...