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Competition authorities must force Apple to allow alternative Browser Engines on their platform ASAP and this must include allowing Electron with full access to

Competition authorities must force Apple to allow alternative Browser Engines on their platform ASAP and this must include allowing Electron with full access to all Hardware components. Electron on Desktop and Mobile would be a game-changer - fantastic for Developers and Consumers.

alwayslikethis 4y ago
With only 8 disclosed 0-days this year in Chromium, this wouldn't bode well with security on already less than perfect Android.
- mtomweb 4y ago
  Please read: https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#security https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#securit... https://twitter.com/openwebadvocacy/status/1541318055636369409 https://twitter.com/openwebadvocacy/status/15413180556363694...
JustSomeNobody 4y ago
> Electron on Desktop and Mobile would be a game-changer... Indeed! We would all have to walk around with an external battery pack!
- wiseowise 4y ago
  Haha! "Electron bad" joke, how original!
  - bryanrasmussen 4y ago
    hmm, maybe the lack of originality in the joke indicates a degree of accuracy in its observation.
    - wiseowise 4y ago
      Everybody knows that Electron is inefficient. You what is even less efficient? No app at all.
      - bryanrasmussen 4y ago
        that depends on the app and the definition of efficiency.
        wiseowise 4y ago
        Uhuh, I'm sure both developer who has to learn a whole new platform and a user who suffers without needed application understand your reasons and definitions.
Maken 4y ago
I can't wait to be able yo experience the same input lag in my smartphone.
scarface74 4y ago
And thinking like this is the very reason not to. Electron apps are there to help the developer not the user. No one ever said “I would really love to have a battery draining, more CPU intensive slower web app than a native app”
- wiseowise 4y ago
  If it was as bad as you describe, then market will decide what to do with them. > No one ever said “I would really love to have a battery draining, more CPU intensive slower web app than a native app” No one ever said "I want to pay 1,5k euro for a phone that has the limitations of a feature phone from 20 years ago". Go on, tell me how blocking me from loading proper browser benefits me because of some performance boogieman that you have in your imagination.
  - dmitriid 4y ago
    > then market will decide what to do with them. Which market? There are no browser engines beyond Chrome, a very distant Safari, and a near-irrelevant Firefox > for a phone that has the limitations of a feature phone from 20 years ago Tell me you never used a feature phone from 20 years ago without telling me this.
    - wiseowise 4y ago
      > Which market? There are no browser engines beyond Chrome, a very distant Safari, and a near-irrelevant Firefox Electron apps compete with native apps, what does this even have to do with browser engines? > Tell me you never used a feature phone from 20 years ago without telling me this. ???
      - dmitriid 4y ago
        > Electron apps compete with native apps, what does this even have to do with browser engines? What do you think Electron apps are based on? > ??? You can't in all seriousness day that iPhone of the day is as limited as feature phones of 20 years ago.

alwayslikethis 4y ago

With only 8 disclosed 0-days this year in Chromium, this wouldn't bode well with security on already less than perfect Android.

mtomweb 4y ago
Please read: https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#security https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#securit... https://twitter.com/openwebadvocacy/status/1541318055636369409 https://twitter.com/openwebadvocacy/status/15413180556363694...

JustSomeNobody 4y ago

> Electron on Desktop and Mobile would be a game-changer... Indeed! We would all have to walk around with an external battery pack!

wiseowise 4y ago
Haha! "Electron bad" joke, how original!
- bryanrasmussen 4y ago
  hmm, maybe the lack of originality in the joke indicates a degree of accuracy in its observation.
  - wiseowise 4y ago
    Everybody knows that Electron is inefficient. You what is even less efficient? No app at all.
    - bryanrasmussen 4y ago
      that depends on the app and the definition of efficiency.
      - wiseowise 4y ago
        Uhuh, I'm sure both developer who has to learn a whole new platform and a user who suffers without needed application understand your reasons and definitions.

Maken 4y ago

I can't wait to be able yo experience the same input lag in my smartphone.

scarface74 4y ago

And thinking like this is the very reason not to. Electron apps are there to help the developer not the user. No one ever said “I would really love to have a battery draining, more CPU intensive slower web app than a native app”

wiseowise 4y ago
If it was as bad as you describe, then market will decide what to do with them. > No one ever said “I would really love to have a battery draining, more CPU intensive slower web app than a native app” No one ever said "I want to pay 1,5k euro for a phone that has the limitations of a feature phone from 20 years ago". Go on, tell me how blocking me from loading proper browser benefits me because of some performance boogieman that you have in your imagination.
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > then market will decide what to do with them. Which market? There are no browser engines beyond Chrome, a very distant Safari, and a near-irrelevant Firefox > for a phone that has the limitations of a feature phone from 20 years ago Tell me you never used a feature phone from 20 years ago without telling me this.
  - wiseowise 4y ago
    > Which market? There are no browser engines beyond Chrome, a very distant Safari, and a near-irrelevant Firefox Electron apps compete with native apps, what does this even have to do with browser engines? > Tell me you never used a feature phone from 20 years ago without telling me this. ???
    - dmitriid 4y ago
      > Electron apps compete with native apps, what does this even have to do with browser engines? What do you think Electron apps are based on? > ??? You can't in all seriousness day that iPhone of the day is as limited as feature phones of 20 years ago.