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There's a pretty big difference between prostitution and other shitty jobs from mental health perspective.

by mantas 4y ago

naasking 4y ago
> There's a pretty big difference between prostitution and other shitty jobs from mental health perspective. Is there though? Or is it really the circumstances around the sex work that cause these problems, like legislation that forces women to work with pimps for protection, who then get them hooked on hard drugs and physically abuse them.
- mantas 4y ago
  There're quite a few things going on in human body during sex that doesn't happen with most lines of work. Let alone what happens in case of pregnancy.
  - naasking 4y ago
    > There're quite a few things going on in human body during sex that doesn't happen with most lines of work. No line of work has exactly the same impact as every other line of work. Even within a line of work there are huge differences, ie. programming in Silicon Valley is very different than programming in a smaller city. Furthermore, individual responses to stimuli are fairly unique. Some people don't respond well to hard physical labour and others relish it. The people who don't respond well just don't do hard labour. Similarly, some people can have casual sex without issues and some people cannot. Sometimes the people who can't have casual sex can have sex in a therapeutic context, because the deeper meaning the concept of "therapy" holds makes it not casual in their mind. How we view things has an outsized effect on how they impact us. Finally, I don't see how pregnancy is any riskier than work that can maim you for life.
    - mantas 4y ago
      Dangerous lines of work is dangerous for you. Prostitution pregnancy is dangerous for the outside person. Having both loving and caring parents is quite important during the early years… It also gets important late in life to know family medical history. Of course, there are many other ways society ends up with unloved kids that don’t know at least on of the parents. But those ways are generally shunned, and for a good reason. Abortion is another alternative but that is not exactly risk-free either. Both for physical and mental health. And yes, there are other dangerous jobs. But then we as a society take steps to reduce the danger to the minimum and pay accordingly to those who do take the risk. But in this case whole „profession“ does not bring any upsides to the society. Aside from very few people.
dsign 4y ago
You kidding? When I was 17, I was conscripted into the military in a shitty country. There, I was forced to kill and prepare chickens. I couldn't eat chicken for a year afterwards. If my economic circumstances had forced me to take that as a paid job, my mental health would have gone to shit. Furthermore, if I had had to choose between doing that and prostituting myself, guess what hormonal me would have chosen? Thankfully, I could go to college instead. I think education and choices in ways of making a living are the important bit.
- mantas 4y ago
  Are you sure you wouldn't have changed your mind after a couple days in your job?
  - dsign 4y ago
    I have a total of three days into forced labor killing chickens and 0.0000 days into gainfully having sex for money. I have 20 years into doing software for money, and 20 years into doing sex for free. During my (paid) professional life, I've worked for scores of people who saw and used me as a code-writing machine, including colleagues from a company I founded. My sexual life has included partners of both sexes, several nationalities, and quite a few body types. Things I regret, from most to least: killing chickens, writing code for a living. Things I enjoy, from most to least: having sex, writing code. Things that come to my mind in the shower when I want to let some steam off: having sex. No, neither killing chickens nor writing code pop up there. All in all, not getting paid to have sex is probably for the best, but I don't feel I should force that way of life onto others.
    - mantas 4y ago
      I’m not sure about you, but for me I don’t get same emotional responses when writing code. Of course, there must be few people who have mental issues and a) won’t get normal hormone response to sex b) already addicted to sex. But I see it same as vast majority of homeless people. When a choice is made because of mental issues… Its not really a choice. Similar to people putting in major overtime to run away from issues at home or inner daemons. Not as bad as alcohol or drug addicts and sometimes society even puts them on a pedestal as great achievers. But overall it’s a net loss to society. Because it normalizes and promotes behavior that is disadvantageous for majority of society. And underlining issues will bite back eventually. Both the person in question and society through his or her medical bills at old age.

There's a pretty big difference between prostitution and other shitty jobs from mental health perspective.

by mantas 4y ago

There's a pretty big difference between prostitution and other shitty jobs from mental health perspective.

> There's a pretty big difference between prostitution and other shitty jobs from mental health perspective. Is there though? Or is it really the circumstances around the sex work that cause these problems, like legislation that forces women to work with pimps for protection, who then get them hooked on hard drugs and physically abuse them.

mantas 4y ago
There're quite a few things going on in human body during sex that doesn't happen with most lines of work. Let alone what happens in case of pregnancy.
- naasking 4y ago
  > There're quite a few things going on in human body during sex that doesn't happen with most lines of work. No line of work has exactly the same impact as every other line of work. Even within a line of work there are huge differences, ie. programming in Silicon Valley is very different than programming in a smaller city. Furthermore, individual responses to stimuli are fairly unique. Some people don't respond well to hard physical labour and others relish it. The people who don't respond well just don't do hard labour. Similarly, some people can have casual sex without issues and some people cannot. Sometimes the people who can't have casual sex can have sex in a therapeutic context, because the deeper meaning the concept of "therapy" holds makes it not casual in their mind. How we view things has an outsized effect on how they impact us. Finally, I don't see how pregnancy is any riskier than work that can maim you for life.
  - mantas 4y ago
    Dangerous lines of work is dangerous for you. Prostitution pregnancy is dangerous for the outside person. Having both loving and caring parents is quite important during the early years… It also gets important late in life to know family medical history. Of course, there are many other ways society ends up with unloved kids that don’t know at least on of the parents. But those ways are generally shunned, and for a good reason. Abortion is another alternative but that is not exactly risk-free either. Both for physical and mental health. And yes, there are other dangerous jobs. But then we as a society take steps to reduce the danger to the minimum and pay accordingly to those who do take the risk. But in this case whole „profession“ does not bring any upsides to the society. Aside from very few people.

dsign 4y ago

You kidding? When I was 17, I was conscripted into the military in a shitty country. There, I was forced to kill and prepare chickens. I couldn't eat chicken for a year afterwards. If my economic circumstances had forced me to take that as a paid job, my mental health would have gone to shit. Furthermore, if I had had to choose between doing that and prostituting myself, guess what hormonal me would have chosen? Thankfully, I could go to college instead. I think education and choices in ways of making a living are the important bit.

mantas 4y ago
Are you sure you wouldn't have changed your mind after a couple days in your job?
- dsign 4y ago
  I have a total of three days into forced labor killing chickens and 0.0000 days into gainfully having sex for money. I have 20 years into doing software for money, and 20 years into doing sex for free. During my (paid) professional life, I've worked for scores of people who saw and used me as a code-writing machine, including colleagues from a company I founded. My sexual life has included partners of both sexes, several nationalities, and quite a few body types. Things I regret, from most to least: killing chickens, writing code for a living. Things I enjoy, from most to least: having sex, writing code. Things that come to my mind in the shower when I want to let some steam off: having sex. No, neither killing chickens nor writing code pop up there. All in all, not getting paid to have sex is probably for the best, but I don't feel I should force that way of life onto others.
  - mantas 4y ago
    I’m not sure about you, but for me I don’t get same emotional responses when writing code. Of course, there must be few people who have mental issues and a) won’t get normal hormone response to sex b) already addicted to sex. But I see it same as vast majority of homeless people. When a choice is made because of mental issues… Its not really a choice. Similar to people putting in major overtime to run away from issues at home or inner daemons. Not as bad as alcohol or drug addicts and sometimes society even puts them on a pedestal as great achievers. But overall it’s a net loss to society. Because it normalizes and promotes behavior that is disadvantageous for majority of society. And underlining issues will bite back eventually. Both the person in question and society through his or her medical bills at old age.