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Musk a month ago: > My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk

• wheaties 4y ago
  ...and people believed him! Hopefully this goes on FB, Reddit, and every other social media thing it can.
  • mardifoufs 4y ago
    No worries, this is already coming from reddit.
    • copenseethe 4y ago
• nailer 4y ago
  It's entirely possible the account posted different content beyond tracking the jet. It's also possible a mistake was made and the account will be restored. When Kanye was banned for posting a swastika, people spread a rumor that it was for posting a picture of Elon looking fat. So we have a history of there being more to it here. Maybe we should actually find out what the account has posted recently, or see if it was a mistake, first?
  • dmix 4y ago
    Waiting to find out more details is antithetical to the internet outrage machine.
    • ceejayoz 4y ago
      Inventing imaginary details to justify hypocrisy is bread-and-butter of the internet outrage outrage machine. The @elonjet account hasn't posted anything outside the norm; I was a follower. Anyone who'd like to provide evidence otherwise is welcome to do so.
    • micromacrofoot 4y ago
      assuming there’s more to it when we have a history of there not being more to it seems similarly foolish
      • dmix 4y ago
        Well I personally have nothing to gain or lose from waiting for at least the account owner to comment (no tweets as of this moment) https://twitter.com/jxcksweeney https://twitter.com/jxcksweeney let alone something from Twitter I don't expect it to stop others though
        • nickthegreek 4y ago
          He has tweeted. And guess what, it looks like just what everyone has been saying! Who woulda guessed?!
          • deleted 4y ago
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          • dmix 4y ago
            We already knew his account was suspended… That’s all he said. I was talking about an explanation. Usually Twitter tells them.
  • mewmew07 4y ago
    The Web Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20221213074257/twitter.com/elonjet http://web.archive.org/web/20221213074257/twitter.com/elonje...
    • dmix 4y ago
      Seems like the account runner hasn't tweeted anything? https://twitter.com/jxcksweeney/status/1602354433807061070?s=46&t= https://twitter.com/jxcksweeney/status/1602354433807061070?s... The last thing they said was Twitter backtracked on 'deamplifying' his account. I guess maybe something changed.
  • Ensorceled 4y ago
    > Maybe we should actually find out what the account has posted recently first? Yes, because Elon has certainly earned all the benefit of the doubt. Also, what did "we" find?
    • nailer 4y ago
      Well yes, exactly - the last time time someone said Musk had banned an account, it turned out it was because someone pasted the symbol of a group that murdered a few million people on the basis of their race, not because they insulted Musk. I'm glad you understand the history here.
  • d23 4y ago
    So if it turns out Elon lied, you’ll change your opinion of him?
    • nailer 4y ago
      Yes I will. Though it would be uncharacteristic if he did - he made a point of keeping Elonjet alive, and not deplatforming people because Twitter staff dislike them - assuming the account content remained the same, it's likely someone at Twitter made a mistake and the account will be restored. Will you change your opinion of Musk if this ban turned out to be a mistake? Did you change previously your opinion of Musk the last time "Elon bans someone because they insulted him" turned out to be untrue?
• trymas 4y ago
  > .. even though that is a direct personal safety risk The data is public, jesus christ. Though Musk-fans will eat this up.
  • duxup 4y ago
    I’m convinced people don’t like/ read messages closely. They just like sentiment. So they’re happy to embrace what they think of as say a concept like freedom, even if it is the opposite.
  • id 4y ago
    To be fair, public is not the same as easily accessible.
    • ceejayoz 4y ago
      It's easily accessible. Here you go: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/ https://globe.adsbexchange.com/
      • foobarbecue 4y ago
        I don't see Elon's plane marked.
        • ceejayoz 4y ago
          It's not in the air right now. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af
          • foobarbecue 4y ago
            Ok, so now that you gave me the callsign, it IS effectively marked. Publishing someone's personal jet callsign should be treated similar to publishing someone's license plate number, phone number, or home address. And an organization like Twitter should have clear policies on that.
• cloutchaser 4y ago
  1. We don't have any information yet, whether this was an automated ban, or something else. Due to the high profile I imagine we will find out soon, so all the hysteria in this thread is a bit premature 2. Ironically, what this account is doing is basically doxxing, whether the data is publicly available or not, it certainly makes it easier to track someone who has plenty of enemies. 3. If it was banned under Musk's instructions, that is pretty hypocritical after his tweet 2 weeks ago, but I still think it's a bit ridiculous to cite free speech issues being violated here when this is easily argued as a doxxing case.
  • femboy 4y ago
    Thank you for your service. Please send your CV to elon+pr@twitter.com
    • cloutchaser 4y ago
      Thank you for your ad hominem attack reply, it added nothing to the conversation.