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Can't you just verify your age and be done? I don't see the issue, plenty of things end up being blocked, so it seems like this is just something you'd do anywa

Can't you just verify your age and be done? I don't see the issue, plenty of things end up being blocked, so it seems like this is just something you'd do anyway, it's no big deal.

FpUser 4y ago
>"plenty of things end up being blocked" So let's block even more and turn country into China
glitchc 4y ago
How do you verify your age without showing some kind of ID?
- gambiting 4y ago
  Uhm.....you don't? With my provider here in UK(GiffGaff) I had to send them the digits from my passport to have "adult" content unlocked on my sim, it's all blocked by default otherwise. There are several other types of ID you can use for this.
  - ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
    The solution is to enable full-time VPN, not to provide your ISP with information they have no business collecting.
ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
> Can't you just verify your age and be done? And how, exactly, would you propose to do that in a way which is privacy-preserving?
- sofixa 4y ago
  There's at least one standard in the works about such a thing (blind signing) - https://privacypass.github.io/ https://privacypass.github.io/. IIRC there's also an EU proposal for such a thing. Basically you submit your ID to a service (could even be a local app with the biometric IDs we have in the EU, which have NFC) which validates your age on request in a "blind" manner (the service doesn't know what they're validating it for, the what for doesn't know anything beside an "it's OK, they're 18+).
teamonkey 4y ago
This doesn't give them any information they didn't already know, phone operators in the UK require at least one form of ID for you to open an account. They already have your details on record, this is just a formality - recording your consent to opt-in. The Snooper's Charter bill is far more dangerous. On the flip side, in the UK a mobile phone bill can also used as proof of identity in many cases.
- vinay427 4y ago
  > This doesn't give them any information they didn't already know, phone operators in the UK require at least one form of ID for you to open an account. That's not true for many prepaid/PAYG users in the UK. Anyone can still walk into a mobile store or supermarket and buy a PAYG SIM card, which isn't the case in many other European countries. Granted, those still don't support the more unusual features such as eSIM and companion smartwatches, but they're still a valuable choice to have.

Can't you just verify your age and be done? I don't see the issue, plenty of things end up being blocked, so it seems like this is just something you'd do anyway, it's no big deal.

FpUser 4y ago

>"plenty of things end up being blocked" So let's block even more and turn country into China

glitchc 4y ago

How do you verify your age without showing some kind of ID?

gambiting 4y ago
Uhm.....you don't? With my provider here in UK(GiffGaff) I had to send them the digits from my passport to have "adult" content unlocked on my sim, it's all blocked by default otherwise. There are several other types of ID you can use for this.
- ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
  The solution is to enable full-time VPN, not to provide your ISP with information they have no business collecting.

ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago

> Can't you just verify your age and be done? And how, exactly, would you propose to do that in a way which is privacy-preserving?

sofixa 4y ago
There's at least one standard in the works about such a thing (blind signing) - https://privacypass.github.io/ https://privacypass.github.io/. IIRC there's also an EU proposal for such a thing. Basically you submit your ID to a service (could even be a local app with the biometric IDs we have in the EU, which have NFC) which validates your age on request in a "blind" manner (the service doesn't know what they're validating it for, the what for doesn't know anything beside an "it's OK, they're 18+).

teamonkey 4y ago

This doesn't give them any information they didn't already know, phone operators in the UK require at least one form of ID for you to open an account. They already have your details on record, this is just a formality - recording your consent to opt-in. The Snooper's Charter bill is far more dangerous. On the flip side, in the UK a mobile phone bill can also used as proof of identity in many cases.

vinay427 4y ago
> This doesn't give them any information they didn't already know, phone operators in the UK require at least one form of ID for you to open an account. That's not true for many prepaid/PAYG users in the UK. Anyone can still walk into a mobile store or supermarket and buy a PAYG SIM card, which isn't the case in many other European countries. Granted, those still don't support the more unusual features such as eSIM and companion smartwatches, but they're still a valuable choice to have.