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Engineer doesn't imply honesty. In those jurisdiction where it's a protected title, it just implies that you have some mix of STEM topics in your degree. Softwa

Engineer doesn't imply honesty. In those jurisdiction where it's a protected title, it just implies that you have some mix of STEM topics in your degree. Software engineers, in these jurisdictions, have that mix, and are as real as bioengineers (a.k.a hospital lab workers), chemical process engineers, construction engineers, etc. No one has had their engineer title taken away for being a crook, as far as I know. Unless the crooked thing they did was fake their diploma. Titles won't fix this.

morelisp 4y ago
It doesn't imply honesty. It does imply liability, so if something bad happens because you're dishonest, you will lose the title, and suffer other consequences.
thrwy_918 4y ago
> No one has had their engineer title taken away for being a crook, as far as I know This seems an absurd claim, unless you're going to get very pedantic about some distinction between "engineer title" and "legal right to function as an engineer". > https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/engineer-s-licence-revoked-after-charbonneau-commission-scandal-1.5726286 https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/engineer-s-licence-revoked-after... This is one example found after just a few seconds of searching, but it is absolutely commonplace to have your engineering license revoked for carrying out criminal activity. > In those jurisdiction where it's a protected title, it just implies that you have some mix of STEM topics in your degree. This seems a bizarre claim too. In jurisdictions where membership of a professional licensing body is necessary in order to refer to oneself as an engineer and practice as an engineer, it is absolutely not the case that all you need is the right "mix of STEM topics in your degree". It means you have a certain degree, have completed a set amount of work experience, have completed a professional certification exam and then maintain that license, which may require meeting other requirements periodically. And yes, "not being a crook" is certainly one of those requirements, and being involved in major criminal activity, especially criminal activity related to your professional practice, is absolutely grounds for having your license and certification as an engineer revoked.

morelisp 4y ago

It doesn't imply honesty. It does imply liability, so if something bad happens because you're dishonest, you will lose the title, and suffer other consequences.

thrwy_918 4y ago

> No one has had their engineer title taken away for being a crook, as far as I know This seems an absurd claim, unless you're going to get very pedantic about some distinction between "engineer title" and "legal right to function as an engineer". > https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/engineer-s-licence-revoked-after-charbonneau-commission-scandal-1.5726286 https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/engineer-s-licence-revoked-after... This is one example found after just a few seconds of searching, but it is absolutely commonplace to have your engineering license revoked for carrying out criminal activity. > In those jurisdiction where it's a protected title, it just implies that you have some mix of STEM topics in your degree. This seems a bizarre claim too. In jurisdictions where membership of a professional licensing body is necessary in order to refer to oneself as an engineer and practice as an engineer, it is absolutely not the case that all you need is the right "mix of STEM topics in your degree". It means you have a certain degree, have completed a set amount of work experience, have completed a professional certification exam and then maintain that license, which may require meeting other requirements periodically. And yes, "not being a crook" is certainly one of those requirements, and being involved in major criminal activity, especially criminal activity related to your professional practice, is absolutely grounds for having your license and certification as an engineer revoked.