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I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of what software is, so it's a bit premature to say where it went wrong. The author says that "Software is

by maria2 4y ago

I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of what software is, so it's a bit premature to say where it went wrong. The author says that "Software is not creative." This may be true, but software is a creation. And currently it is created in the most crude and rudimentary way possible. There are a lot of creative people out there. Writing software today is too hard. It takes too much knowledge and too much work. If writing a game was as easy as creating a TikTok video, imagine how much creativity would exist within the realm of software.

mattpallissard 4y ago
The two current approaches are no/low code which has been around in some aspect for a while now and ai/ML generated code which is young. I wonder if there will be another approach or if those approaches will get polished to a workable state.
- CRConrad 4y ago
  > The two current approaches are no/low code which has been around in some aspect for a while now That has been around for at least thirty-five years. If it were going to lead anywhere, it would have, by now. > and ai/ML generated code which is young. I'm expecting more of a repeat than a difference.
uejfiweun 4y ago
> I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of what software is... Yes, agreed. Software is that magic dust that produces behavior. It's the technology that enables things to react to their environments. All life runs a form of software, you could say. Software will only increase in prevalence and importance as society continues to demand machines to behave in a certain way. It strikes me that articles like this are more gripes against the development process of software rather than the end product. The end product did not "go wrong" and is in fact at the peak of complexity and usefulness, and this peak will continue to get higher and higher until we reach the singularity.
LesZedCB 4y ago
i don't think the author is saying the process of software is not creative, but that software as software is not creative. software is not creative because it's static. any new data consumed by software isn't reincorporated into a new repetition of the software itself, but simply regurgitated slightly wrong. though, i actually disagree, it's just incorporated by the desiring-machines creating the software. :) pegging "software" to a static entity i think is flawed as it is in fact always changing, even in a simple machine-producing-machine system of a CD pipeline.
RHSman2 4y ago
"Software is not creative." It is a hard implementation of creativity. Like a song on Spotify (or any other listening format) is creativity, all wrapped up and finished. There are of course creative ways to do things. I am working with two software companies that have a problem to solve. One tries to fix the problem (a very hard problem) and is unsuccessful, the other knew it was very hard and hacked it in a way that the people got what they needed. Proper genius thinking and a super creative way of getting the solution that is required.

by maria2 4y ago

mattpallissard 4y ago

The two current approaches are no/low code which has been around in some aspect for a while now and ai/ML generated code which is young. I wonder if there will be another approach or if those approaches will get polished to a workable state.

CRConrad 4y ago
> The two current approaches are no/low code which has been around in some aspect for a while now That has been around for at least thirty-five years. If it were going to lead anywhere, it would have, by now. > and ai/ML generated code which is young. I'm expecting more of a repeat than a difference.

uejfiweun 4y ago

> I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of what software is... Yes, agreed. Software is that magic dust that produces behavior. It's the technology that enables things to react to their environments. All life runs a form of software, you could say. Software will only increase in prevalence and importance as society continues to demand machines to behave in a certain way. It strikes me that articles like this are more gripes against the development process of software rather than the end product. The end product did not "go wrong" and is in fact at the peak of complexity and usefulness, and this peak will continue to get higher and higher until we reach the singularity.

LesZedCB 4y ago

i don't think the author is saying the process of software is not creative, but that software as software is not creative. software is not creative because it's static. any new data consumed by software isn't reincorporated into a new repetition of the software itself, but simply regurgitated slightly wrong. though, i actually disagree, it's just incorporated by the desiring-machines creating the software. :) pegging "software" to a static entity i think is flawed as it is in fact always changing, even in a simple machine-producing-machine system of a CD pipeline.

RHSman2 4y ago

"Software is not creative." It is a hard implementation of creativity. Like a song on Spotify (or any other listening format) is creativity, all wrapped up and finished. There are of course creative ways to do things. I am working with two software companies that have a problem to solve. One tries to fix the problem (a very hard problem) and is unsuccessful, the other knew it was very hard and hacked it in a way that the people got what they needed. Proper genius thinking and a super creative way of getting the solution that is required.