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Maybe they already got their millions secured away in some untouchable country and don't really care what happens at this point.

tasuki 4y ago
They were already quite well off, now their son is in trouble. "My son is going to prison but I have secured my millions so it's fine" is generally not a thing.
- LudwigNagasena 4y ago
  Maybe he never was their favorite son anyway.
  - bambax 4y ago
    Oh I think it's the opposite. I think they thought of him as the second coming of Jesus himself, and he felt he had to do extraordinary things to live up to that image (which of course is impossible). I think he secretly hated it and that's why he trashed his own hypocrisy in some interviews, saying that the charity talks were all an act and not true. And I also think that's a big part of his "I'm stupid / I fucked up" line of defense. Yes, he may think it helps his case (but is he actually that naïve?) But the main goal is to tell his parents "see, the genius you thought I was is actually a complete idiot, what do you make of that?!?" I think he's happy to suffer if that makes his parents suffer more. (Of course that's all speculation and pop' psychology and as such isn't worth the electrons it's typed in; but it's a possibility.)
- syzarian 4y ago
  I think that it is a thing for a shockingly large percent of parents. Historically children were the retirement plan (in addition to labor for the family). That type of thinking is fairly common.
  - KMag 4y ago
    But aren't his parents pretty successful lawyers who are pretty well of on their own? There are usual family pathologies and unusual family pathologies, and this looks like the latter.
    - syzarian 4y ago
      I’ll rephrase. There are too many parents who don’t care about their kids or what happens to them. This tendency goes up a bit, I think, if the kids are not necessary for retirement or care when old age sets in.
  - anonporridge 4y ago
    > Historically children were the retirement plan They still are. It's just that the retirement plan has been socialized to the level of the nation state. The labor of the young takes care of the old. This is literally true in the case of social security which is funded by taxing current productive labor. This isn't necessarily bad, because it's the way it's always been. But it is something like a multi-generational ponzi scheme. It can work for a very long time, but eventually, the last generation is left holding the bag with no one to pass it onto.
    - csomar 4y ago
      > This isn't necessarily bad, because it's the way it's always been. I'm not sure this sentence make any sense. The same could be said about slavery. Is slavery not necessarily bad because it's the way it's always been?
      - anonporridge 4y ago
        You're right, that sentence is bad. Maybe I should have said it isn't obviously bad or some new, modern evil that we just invented. It's how human social groups that take care of their non productive elderly have always operated.
        4y ago
- time_to_smile 4y ago
  I'm glad you have great parents, but I think you vastly underestimate how much many parents do not care about their children, and will sacrifice them for their own well being. Most caring parents would aggressively caution their children from heading down the path SBF went, especially if they're smart, educated parents. There are no "boy geniuses" out there like many lead SBF to believe he was, people from prestigious backgrounds know this better than anyone. There are some really smart people out there, but anyone being propped up the way SBF was is being setup. I don't have any sympathy for SBF, but a lot people whose names we'll never know where more than happy to set him up to think he was himself an unstoppable genius because that helped them sell a product and they know that it will also help focus all the blame.
  - sn41 4y ago
    His parents are Stanford law professors, so they are smart and educated. But doesn't mean that their child has to listen to them or to behave in an ethical manner.
    - SoftTalker 4y ago
      That's the thing. You can do everything you can to educate your children and teach them right from wrong, but at some point they are free-thinking adults. Of course you would be distressed if they end up taking the wrong path, but underlying that you would know that you did your best and it's not your fault.
- optimalsolver 4y ago
  You'd be surprised.
- smeej 4y ago
  The number of self-absorbed parents who care about their children only as accessories to their own lives, to be embraced when useful and ignored when inconvenient, is staggering.

tasuki 4y ago

They were already quite well off, now their son is in trouble. "My son is going to prison but I have secured my millions so it's fine" is generally not a thing.

LudwigNagasena 4y ago
Maybe he never was their favorite son anyway.
- bambax 4y ago
  Oh I think it's the opposite. I think they thought of him as the second coming of Jesus himself, and he felt he had to do extraordinary things to live up to that image (which of course is impossible). I think he secretly hated it and that's why he trashed his own hypocrisy in some interviews, saying that the charity talks were all an act and not true. And I also think that's a big part of his "I'm stupid / I fucked up" line of defense. Yes, he may think it helps his case (but is he actually that naïve?) But the main goal is to tell his parents "see, the genius you thought I was is actually a complete idiot, what do you make of that?!?" I think he's happy to suffer if that makes his parents suffer more. (Of course that's all speculation and pop' psychology and as such isn't worth the electrons it's typed in; but it's a possibility.)
syzarian 4y ago
I think that it is a thing for a shockingly large percent of parents. Historically children were the retirement plan (in addition to labor for the family). That type of thinking is fairly common.
- KMag 4y ago
  But aren't his parents pretty successful lawyers who are pretty well of on their own? There are usual family pathologies and unusual family pathologies, and this looks like the latter.
  - syzarian 4y ago
    I’ll rephrase. There are too many parents who don’t care about their kids or what happens to them. This tendency goes up a bit, I think, if the kids are not necessary for retirement or care when old age sets in.
- anonporridge 4y ago
  > Historically children were the retirement plan They still are. It's just that the retirement plan has been socialized to the level of the nation state. The labor of the young takes care of the old. This is literally true in the case of social security which is funded by taxing current productive labor. This isn't necessarily bad, because it's the way it's always been. But it is something like a multi-generational ponzi scheme. It can work for a very long time, but eventually, the last generation is left holding the bag with no one to pass it onto.
  - csomar 4y ago
    > This isn't necessarily bad, because it's the way it's always been. I'm not sure this sentence make any sense. The same could be said about slavery. Is slavery not necessarily bad because it's the way it's always been?
    - anonporridge 4y ago
      You're right, that sentence is bad. Maybe I should have said it isn't obviously bad or some new, modern evil that we just invented. It's how human social groups that take care of their non productive elderly have always operated.
      - 4y ago
time_to_smile 4y ago
I'm glad you have great parents, but I think you vastly underestimate how much many parents do not care about their children, and will sacrifice them for their own well being. Most caring parents would aggressively caution their children from heading down the path SBF went, especially if they're smart, educated parents. There are no "boy geniuses" out there like many lead SBF to believe he was, people from prestigious backgrounds know this better than anyone. There are some really smart people out there, but anyone being propped up the way SBF was is being setup. I don't have any sympathy for SBF, but a lot people whose names we'll never know where more than happy to set him up to think he was himself an unstoppable genius because that helped them sell a product and they know that it will also help focus all the blame.
- sn41 4y ago
  His parents are Stanford law professors, so they are smart and educated. But doesn't mean that their child has to listen to them or to behave in an ethical manner.
  - SoftTalker 4y ago
    That's the thing. You can do everything you can to educate your children and teach them right from wrong, but at some point they are free-thinking adults. Of course you would be distressed if they end up taking the wrong path, but underlying that you would know that you did your best and it's not your fault.
optimalsolver 4y ago
You'd be surprised.
smeej 4y ago
The number of self-absorbed parents who care about their children only as accessories to their own lives, to be embraced when useful and ignored when inconvenient, is staggering.