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I was waiting for that feature for Eclipse too. But I switched to Sublime Text (http://www.sublimetext.com/2 http://www.sublimetext.com/2) and shudder when I th

by ecaron 15y ago

I was waiting for that feature for Eclipse too. But I switched to Sublime Text (http://www.sublimetext.com/2 http://www.sublimetext.com/2) and shudder when I think how many hours I wasted waiting for Eclipse to keep up with me.

baby 15y ago
Sublime Text 2 is amazing! I'm using it now. 3 big shortcomings though: * no color picker (I come from dreamweaver) * no auto-completion of php functions * the folders/project bar on the left is getting messy really quick (I think the dreamweaver project bar is pretty clear compared to ST2).
- zem 15y ago
  a colour picker is likely something the developers would simply never think to add in a product that is not specifically a web-development tool. you should write and suggest it.
  - cytzol 15y ago
    Is it wrong to think badly of an editor where it's up to the developers to add a colour picker when the users want one? Emacs has a simple colour palette widget available at runtime.
    - zem 15y ago
      it's a closed-source editor. the dreamweaver-style colour picker that the op is talking about is a gui widget that (unless the developers have gone out of their way to allow users to script the user interface itself with runtime bindings to every possible platform widget) pretty much has to be added into the core by a developer. emacs has gone out of its way to provide an extraordinary level of scriptability (more so than any other editor i know; i can only think of the old dos aurora that came close in the amount of functionality it pushed upwards into the extension-language level), and even they didn't allow for a real palette widget (if you read the wiki, the palette is hacked together from "zillions of tiny space characters, each in a different face", which is ingenious, but not exactly user-optimal).
    - baby 15y ago
      How do you use it on emacs? I've been trying to use it since a couple weeks (and I really wonder when I'll be productive on it...).
      - shabble 15y ago
        Going pretty far off topic here, but you might enjoy rainbow-mode: http://julien.danjou.info/software/rainbow-mode http://julien.danjou.info/software/rainbow-mode as a partial alternative (although it's more a preview than a picker)
easy_rider 15y ago
I'm probably switching to Sublime, even though it doesn't autocomp. PHP. whatever, few more lookups in the manual are probably less time-consuming and stressful than an editor just blatantly crashing all over the place when just simply...inputting text
- ecaron 15y ago
  Although it'd be nice if Sublime came with autocomp out of the box (or at least an easier way to config it), the options are there. The blog I followed to set it up is http://urbangiraffe.com/2011/08/15/sublime-text-2-for-php/ http://urbangiraffe.com/2011/08/15/sublime-text-2-for-php/. It does make ST a bit more resource intensive than the vanilla version, but it is still loads lighter than Eclipse and also a small footprint on any modern machine. Save yourself the time and skip the Soda UI part of the blog post
- timb 15y ago
  The dev version has autocomplete http://www.sublimetext.com/dev http://www.sublimetext.com/dev

by ecaron 15y ago

baby 15y ago

Sublime Text 2 is amazing! I'm using it now. 3 big shortcomings though: * no color picker (I come from dreamweaver) * no auto-completion of php functions * the folders/project bar on the left is getting messy really quick (I think the dreamweaver project bar is pretty clear compared to ST2).

zem 15y ago
a colour picker is likely something the developers would simply never think to add in a product that is not specifically a web-development tool. you should write and suggest it.
- cytzol 15y ago
  Is it wrong to think badly of an editor where it's up to the developers to add a colour picker when the users want one? Emacs has a simple colour palette widget available at runtime.
  - zem 15y ago
    it's a closed-source editor. the dreamweaver-style colour picker that the op is talking about is a gui widget that (unless the developers have gone out of their way to allow users to script the user interface itself with runtime bindings to every possible platform widget) pretty much has to be added into the core by a developer. emacs has gone out of its way to provide an extraordinary level of scriptability (more so than any other editor i know; i can only think of the old dos aurora that came close in the amount of functionality it pushed upwards into the extension-language level), and even they didn't allow for a real palette widget (if you read the wiki, the palette is hacked together from "zillions of tiny space characters, each in a different face", which is ingenious, but not exactly user-optimal).
  - baby 15y ago
    How do you use it on emacs? I've been trying to use it since a couple weeks (and I really wonder when I'll be productive on it...).
    - shabble 15y ago
      Going pretty far off topic here, but you might enjoy rainbow-mode: http://julien.danjou.info/software/rainbow-mode http://julien.danjou.info/software/rainbow-mode as a partial alternative (although it's more a preview than a picker)

easy_rider 15y ago

I'm probably switching to Sublime, even though it doesn't autocomp. PHP. whatever, few more lookups in the manual are probably less time-consuming and stressful than an editor just blatantly crashing all over the place when just simply...inputting text

ecaron 15y ago
Although it'd be nice if Sublime came with autocomp out of the box (or at least an easier way to config it), the options are there. The blog I followed to set it up is http://urbangiraffe.com/2011/08/15/sublime-text-2-for-php/ http://urbangiraffe.com/2011/08/15/sublime-text-2-for-php/. It does make ST a bit more resource intensive than the vanilla version, but it is still loads lighter than Eclipse and also a small footprint on any modern machine. Save yourself the time and skip the Soda UI part of the blog post
timb 15y ago
The dev version has autocomplete http://www.sublimetext.com/dev http://www.sublimetext.com/dev