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It's simple enough to be useful and applied. If you continue to reduce your calorie intake, you will lose weight. This is a fact. Build a model to explain weigh
by algoatecorn 4y ago
It's simple enough to be useful and applied. If you continue to reduce your calorie intake, you will lose weight. This is a fact. Build a model to explain weight gain/loss and calorie intake will always be the most influential variable full stop
- rhinoceraptor 4y agoThis is like saying the way to become financially successful, is to simply earn more money than you spend. These two explanations are correct, but not particularly helpful, because they are tautologies.
- soco 4y agoTrue they're not particularly helpful, but the commenter was arguing against their truthfulness.
- maerF0x0 4y agoYou're correct with the caveat that the system is not totally static so TDEE tends to decline as the body endures deficits. Therefore it "appears" that CICO is broken... its not, it's just that to keep a static deficit over time you have to eat fewer and fewer calories.
- SamoyedFurFluff 4y agoIs it actually simple enough to be useful? We’ve known this for decades and it hasn’t slimmed anyone down statistically. What precisely is it useful for? Because it isn’t useful in losing weight… people simply aren’t losing.
- algoatecorn 4y agoTotal BS. We've known if for forever and the reason "people simply aren't losing" is because they aren't doing a good job of counting. Go ask a fighter, wrestler, runner, or bodybuilder how they manage body weight. They don't do it by tossing a coin into the wishing well, I can tell you that.
- SamoyedFurFluff 4y agoDude I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, I’m asking what is it useful for in a statistically significant manner. I’m not really interested in some outlier professional fighters or whatever have to say about it. What fat person doesn’t know CICO is real? You don’t think they’ve heard it a million times? Yet statistically we’re only getting fatter. Trying the same stuff expecting different results is stupid, and yet we’re telling every fatty out there CICO, millions of them, for decades, with nothing to show at a population level. This is stupid. Thus I’m questioning what CICO is useful for beyond some academic, theoretical sense. Actual applications. Because the application ain’t applying.