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> Can you imagine Apple not operating in Europe? Sure, we do after all have the example of some (non-Apple) companies not operating in China, a similarly impor
by jsnell 4y ago
> Can you imagine Apple not operating in Europe?
Sure, we do after all have the example of some (non-Apple) companies not operating in China, a similarly important market. If Apple really believe their own rhetoric about how the only way to protect their users is for Apple to control the experience, they'll pull out of Europe rather than compromise on their users' security.
- CrypticShift 4y agoEurope is not China. I just talked about how this is about moral authority VS legal one. Here it is about commercial markets VS cultural centres. Europe is not just a market. Europe is the (historical) centre of the western world. I don't think big tech can/want to leave it. If they say so, IMO they are just bluffing.
- Swenrekcah 4y agoThere are both monetary and strategic reasons for global corporations to operate in Europe of course, just as there are with other areas of the world. But that doesn't mean they should be allowed to do so solely on their own terms. Countries can set the terms they want. That is the meaning of sovereignty. Some of them have rules that constrain their legislature somewhat (a constitution) and some of them try to set rules that at least to some degree conform to the will of the people living there (democracies). These principles have not come about from nothing, so I wouldn't call them arbitrary.
- CrypticShift 4y ago> These principles have not come about from nothing, so I wouldn't call them arbitrary. I did not either. I was just using his exact expression, in an effort to let him explain himself. I can understand how offending that word is for some. Just wonder at all that bloody european history and superhuman effort to rationally get over it...