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One word. Jailbreak. I've jailbroken my iOS devices since the first iPod touch. There are lots of tools and features that Apple doesn't allow developers access

One word. Jailbreak. I've jailbroken my iOS devices since the first iPod touch. There are lots of tools and features that Apple doesn't allow developers access to which limits what features are ultimately available to the end-user. Nearly every big feature release on iOS came first from the jailbreak community. App switching, call overlay, PIP video, Shortcuts, lockscreen widgets, home screen widgets... and an endless list of others. Non of these features would exist without designers and developers having access to the core functionality of the iPhone. I love iOS. I currently own an iPhone without a Jailbreak (doesn't exist for my iPhone). I'm also an engineer and there is a whole lot of potential that Apple limits strictly under the guise of security. You can have alternate stores without compromising those that choose not to install them. I understand that Google may decide to create their own store and take all their apps with them... this I can see being a very negative thing which may be needs regulation in itself. IDK what that would look like, but I don't use Google anyways because I have no trust in them. I don't trust them in the App Store so I wouldn't trust them with their own store.

behnamoh 4y ago
I think Apple lowkey actually wants Jailbreak to continue as it's a pool of free novel ideas that they can then implement in iOS. But what % of Apple's customers JB their iDevices? Probably not more than 5%, and that number is likely decreasing too. For instance, I used to JB my iPad and iPhone up until iOS 15 when the features introduced by the OS passed my needs *threshold*.
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  Oh trust me it's way way lower than 5%. More like 0.05% :) I was until recently a corporate admin of (among many other types) tens of thousands of BYOD iphones.
everfree 4y ago
> I understand that Google may decide to create their own store and take all their apps with them... this I can see being a very negative thing which may be needs regulation in itself. What do you mean by "create their own store"? I don't understand this part of your comment.
noirscape 4y ago
> I understand that Google may decide to create their own store and take all their apps with them... this I can see being a very negative thing which may be needs regulation in itself. IDK what that would look like, but I don't use Google anyways because I have no trust in them. I don't trust them in the App Store so I wouldn't trust them with their own store. If you already don't trust them in the App Store, why would you trust them in their own store to begin with? Sounds to me like you shouldn't use Google apps to begin with. Most of their apps are very replaceable and with the arbitrary restrictions forcibly peeled back, the sole service that you can only get from them (YouTube) can finally get an iOS equivalent of NewPipe that doesn't need a hacked phone to be installed.
- MagicMoonlight 4y ago
  Because Apple forces them to comply with privacy rules in the App store. The google store won't

behnamoh 4y ago

I think Apple lowkey actually wants Jailbreak to continue as it's a pool of free novel ideas that they can then implement in iOS. But what % of Apple's customers JB their iDevices? Probably not more than 5%, and that number is likely decreasing too. For instance, I used to JB my iPad and iPhone up until iOS 15 when the features introduced by the OS passed my needs *threshold*.

GekkePrutser 4y ago
Oh trust me it's way way lower than 5%. More like 0.05% :) I was until recently a corporate admin of (among many other types) tens of thousands of BYOD iphones.

everfree 4y ago

noirscape 4y ago

> I understand that Google may decide to create their own store and take all their apps with them... this I can see being a very negative thing which may be needs regulation in itself. IDK what that would look like, but I don't use Google anyways because I have no trust in them. I don't trust them in the App Store so I wouldn't trust them with their own store. If you already don't trust them in the App Store, why would you trust them in their own store to begin with? Sounds to me like you shouldn't use Google apps to begin with. Most of their apps are very replaceable and with the arbitrary restrictions forcibly peeled back, the sole service that you can only get from them (YouTube) can finally get an iOS equivalent of NewPipe that doesn't need a hacked phone to be installed.

MagicMoonlight 4y ago
Because Apple forces them to comply with privacy rules in the App store. The google store won't