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> You seem to be hinting that [..] younger voters have worse decision making abilities I'm not hinting at it - I'm saying so outright. Have your decision-makin

> You seem to be hinting that [..] younger voters have worse decision making abilities I'm not hinting at it - I'm saying so outright. Have your decision-making abilities not progressed since you were 16? > How do you get out of the trap of thinking that people who vote in their self-interest or disagree with you are incapable of making good voting decisions? The majority of people above the age of 21 will vote in ways I disagree with, so I don't see how it is relevant to raising or lowering the voting age. > Teens who have jobs, pay income tax, teens who buy things pay sales tax So because a kid can get a part-time job at 13, that should be the new voting age? Unless you put the voting age at 0, for some part of our lives, we all must live in a society whose laws we can't vote on. After that it's no longer a philosophical question of where rights come from, but a pragmatic balancing act between representation and an informed voting body.

kelseyfrog 4y ago
Honestly, I made pretty good decisions at 16. I have few regrets from that time period other than perhaps some social faux pas, but no, nothing that would have impacted my voting decisions. I'm curious what life experiences you have had in the intervening years that have impacted your ability to make voting decisions. That probably says more about you than it does about other people.
- pannSun 4y ago
  So it should be 16, not 15 or 14? And should the age of consent match it? Since kids are so mature and responsible by that age. Edit: Oh, and they should be able to sign up for the Army at that age, too? The voting age was lowered from 21 to 18 because of the absurdity of drafting teens into a war when they can't even vote on yet. I would have preferred the opposite solution - raise the draft to 21.
  - kelseyfrog 4y ago
    If you learned something between your youth and now that helped you make better decisions that relate to voting, it should be pretty easy to share them. We would all benefit from that knowledge.
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kelseyfrog 4y ago

Honestly, I made pretty good decisions at 16. I have few regrets from that time period other than perhaps some social faux pas, but no, nothing that would have impacted my voting decisions. I'm curious what life experiences you have had in the intervening years that have impacted your ability to make voting decisions. That probably says more about you than it does about other people.

pannSun 4y ago
So it should be 16, not 15 or 14? And should the age of consent match it? Since kids are so mature and responsible by that age. Edit: Oh, and they should be able to sign up for the Army at that age, too? The voting age was lowered from 21 to 18 because of the absurdity of drafting teens into a war when they can't even vote on yet. I would have preferred the opposite solution - raise the draft to 21.
- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  If you learned something between your youth and now that helped you make better decisions that relate to voting, it should be pretty easy to share them. We would all benefit from that knowledge.

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