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I think that we need to just…de-emphasize online communication significantly. I say this, as a stranger communicating with strangers online, but I think that th

I think that we need to just…de-emphasize online communication significantly. I say this, as a stranger communicating with strangers online, but I think that this activity is a lot more pleasant without having to consider all of the technological underpinnings (and the goofy name) of the Fediverse. When I chose a social media platform in the past, I didn’t care about engagement, or who was there or how to find people, or the philosophy behind how it operated, all I really cared about that the content. I didn’t even care about the content being moderated. Why would I care about Nazis using Tumblr if I didn’t follow any? I think that some people have become almost dependent on the concept of online social networks. Yes they are cool and all and its cool to find ideas and conversations online, but I think we are heading down a road where that intangible taste and intrigue is being lost because certain factors are being prioritized to the point where people are forgetting that if they just cared a little bit less, they could disregard the whole jumble of protocols and policies and start a message board.

zimpenfish 4y ago
> Why would I care about Nazis using Tumblr if I didn’t follow any? But other people, possibly young and impressionable people, will.
- the-printer 4y ago
  I understand that. And it makes sense. Speaking for myself, there are other things that I also find are harmful to people who are either young, impressionable, or both. I seem to be in a bind here, using the person who I was during that period of my life (Tumblr using) as a measuring stick for how I see things today. There are clearly some faults with this. The thing is that, if I were to affect my beliefs and moral coordinates as an expectation on social media and the channels of public discourse…I would have to settle on just a message board. I’m using message boards as just an example of a possible solution where the desired control is there minus federation (which I don’t care about). If we all were to affect our beliefs and moral coordinates as expectations onto social media and online discourse…what would come about? This is a conflicting topic to me. I’m aware that I’m speaking into the void here now, zimpenfish. I don’t expect you to respond or read where I’m going with all of this but you’ve got me going now. All in all I just think that there are some issues present online that will not be solved online, necessarily. On one side are the real life matters relevant to society and our well-being. And then there are things like “open standards”…and then there’s everything in between that connects the two. I think the message board idea is a fine one.
SamoyedFurFluff 4y ago
> Why would I care about Nazis using Tumblr if I didn’t follow any? This guy clearly hasn’t heard of the nazi-at-the-bar story. (Paraphrase: an usassuming guy wearing a white supremacist symbol sits and is immediately told to get out, with violence threatened if necessary, by the bartender. The bartender later explains there’s a strategy for unassuming authoritarians who don’t cause a problem end up bringing their friends and suddenly they’re driving other clientele away because it’s a nazi bar, and then it’s too late to peacefully resolve the problem because the nazis will use their numbers to fight any enforcement.)
- the-printer 4y ago
  That’s a good one, thanks.

zimpenfish 4y ago

> Why would I care about Nazis using Tumblr if I didn’t follow any? But other people, possibly young and impressionable people, will.

the-printer 4y ago
I understand that. And it makes sense. Speaking for myself, there are other things that I also find are harmful to people who are either young, impressionable, or both. I seem to be in a bind here, using the person who I was during that period of my life (Tumblr using) as a measuring stick for how I see things today. There are clearly some faults with this. The thing is that, if I were to affect my beliefs and moral coordinates as an expectation on social media and the channels of public discourse…I would have to settle on just a message board. I’m using message boards as just an example of a possible solution where the desired control is there minus federation (which I don’t care about). If we all were to affect our beliefs and moral coordinates as expectations onto social media and online discourse…what would come about? This is a conflicting topic to me. I’m aware that I’m speaking into the void here now, zimpenfish. I don’t expect you to respond or read where I’m going with all of this but you’ve got me going now. All in all I just think that there are some issues present online that will not be solved online, necessarily. On one side are the real life matters relevant to society and our well-being. And then there are things like “open standards”…and then there’s everything in between that connects the two. I think the message board idea is a fine one.

SamoyedFurFluff 4y ago

> Why would I care about Nazis using Tumblr if I didn’t follow any? This guy clearly hasn’t heard of the nazi-at-the-bar story. (Paraphrase: an usassuming guy wearing a white supremacist symbol sits and is immediately told to get out, with violence threatened if necessary, by the bartender. The bartender later explains there’s a strategy for unassuming authoritarians who don’t cause a problem end up bringing their friends and suddenly they’re driving other clientele away because it’s a nazi bar, and then it’s too late to peacefully resolve the problem because the nazis will use their numbers to fight any enforcement.)

the-printer 4y ago
That’s a good one, thanks.