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If you were familiar with NIF, you would know that they absolutely will publish the details of the experiment just as they published the details of the experime

If you were familiar with NIF, you would know that they absolutely will publish the details of the experiment just as they published the details of the experiment that achieved ignition in August 2021: https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.129.075001 https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.12...

oldgradstudent 4y ago
NASA also publishes. Yet we still got this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSJLUIQrA0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSJLUIQrA0 BICEP2 was a respected scientific collaboration, and it ended up like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iasqtm1prlI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iasqtm1prlI The even took a touching video of one of the participants notifying the theorist that predicted the result about their achievement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA Just a two off the top of my mind.
- deleted 4y ago
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- swyx 4y ago
  can you elaborate on what was wrong with the NASA thing?
  - oldgradstudent 4y ago
    Other than not being true? https://phys.org/news/2012-07-scientists-nasa-arsenic-life-untrue.html https://phys.org/news/2012-07-scientists-nasa-arsenic-life-u... https://retractionwatch.com/2021/01/21/why-one-biologist-says-its-not-too-late-to-retract-the-arsenic-life-paper/ https://retractionwatch.com/2021/01/21/why-one-biologist-say...
- donquixote25 4y ago
  What is your point? That we should distrust everything in a scientific journal? You are shifting the goal post. First, you wanted a publication. Now, you say that would not be enough? I am inclined to believe a publication unless other plasma physicist come out with a contradictory information. It's easy to be cynic...
  - oldgradstudent 4y ago
    My point is that people should distrust science by press conference. The minimum is to wait for the publication. Even then, scientific skepticism is the rule, not the exception. Especially in fields that are price to hype.

oldgradstudent 4y ago

NASA also publishes. Yet we still got this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSJLUIQrA0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSJLUIQrA0 BICEP2 was a respected scientific collaboration, and it ended up like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iasqtm1prlI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iasqtm1prlI The even took a touching video of one of the participants notifying the theorist that predicted the result about their achievement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA Just a two off the top of my mind.

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swyx 4y ago
can you elaborate on what was wrong with the NASA thing?
- oldgradstudent 4y ago
  Other than not being true? https://phys.org/news/2012-07-scientists-nasa-arsenic-life-untrue.html https://phys.org/news/2012-07-scientists-nasa-arsenic-life-u... https://retractionwatch.com/2021/01/21/why-one-biologist-says-its-not-too-late-to-retract-the-arsenic-life-paper/ https://retractionwatch.com/2021/01/21/why-one-biologist-say...
donquixote25 4y ago
What is your point? That we should distrust everything in a scientific journal? You are shifting the goal post. First, you wanted a publication. Now, you say that would not be enough? I am inclined to believe a publication unless other plasma physicist come out with a contradictory information. It's easy to be cynic...
- oldgradstudent 4y ago
  My point is that people should distrust science by press conference. The minimum is to wait for the publication. Even then, scientific skepticism is the rule, not the exception. Especially in fields that are price to hype.