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I cant tell if you are arguing for your own position but spoken in the third or if you are upset that this solution doesn’t work for everyone (for whom you are

I cant tell if you are arguing for your own position but spoken in the third or if you are upset that this solution doesn’t work for everyone (for whom you are creating an example and arguing on behalf of). It seems a bit cheap to attack the qualities of it for not being able to solve a theoretical.

paganel 4y ago
Not a native English speaker so I’m aware that I might not have been the most explicit. My point was that I think the OP was saying this: “a person is sad because she’s not aware of her inner problems, she should become aware of those inner problems, potentially solve them, she’ll then be less sad, potentially even happy”. I think that the onus of OP’s point (and of persons making similar points) is that the person from my example might not want to go through the “become aware of her inner problems” step. I was saying that many persons choose to not go through that step because it would be futile, mostly because of material and societal external conditions that they cannot control and which make solving the problems causing the inner problems impossible. Hopefully things are clearer now.
- prohobo 4y ago
  I didn't mean that at all. That would be ridiculous, and totally worth criticizing. It's simply about untangling your mind. Often people get so wound up in pathology due to their problems that they make things worse than they need to be, so in that sense it can make things easier. I never said in my example that my realization caused my problem to vanish. In fact, in some ways things quickly got worse, because now I'd started trying to deal with it without deflection. > a person is sad because she’s not aware of her inner problems A person is sad because something's fucked. If she doesn't even know what that is she's going to have a have a harder time dealing with it. Maybe it's something simple to fix, maybe it's not.

paganel 4y ago

Not a native English speaker so I’m aware that I might not have been the most explicit. My point was that I think the OP was saying this: “a person is sad because she’s not aware of her inner problems, she should become aware of those inner problems, potentially solve them, she’ll then be less sad, potentially even happy”. I think that the onus of OP’s point (and of persons making similar points) is that the person from my example might not want to go through the “become aware of her inner problems” step. I was saying that many persons choose to not go through that step because it would be futile, mostly because of material and societal external conditions that they cannot control and which make solving the problems causing the inner problems impossible. Hopefully things are clearer now.

prohobo 4y ago
I didn't mean that at all. That would be ridiculous, and totally worth criticizing. It's simply about untangling your mind. Often people get so wound up in pathology due to their problems that they make things worse than they need to be, so in that sense it can make things easier. I never said in my example that my realization caused my problem to vanish. In fact, in some ways things quickly got worse, because now I'd started trying to deal with it without deflection. > a person is sad because she’s not aware of her inner problems A person is sad because something's fucked. If she doesn't even know what that is she's going to have a have a harder time dealing with it. Maybe it's something simple to fix, maybe it's not.