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I'm very happy about this. A few days ago, I checked the Bugzilla site for new releases because I'm considering it again for another project. It is not shiny li

by dig1 4y ago

I'm very happy about this. A few days ago, I checked the Bugzilla site for new releases because I'm considering it again for another project. It is not shiny like ClickUp et al., but, IMHO, the issue tracker, should be a piece of software straight-to-the-point, a little bit dry. I'm not going to live in my issue tracker. Another tool I still appreciate is Jira (I'm aware that might raise some eyebrows :P). But, unfortunately, I find everything else as (still) half-baked, heavy, or simply not-there-yet for any serious usage outside of pet project management. I am begrudgingly saying this after a large client moved to ClickUp, which was a total management disaster, not to say that using uBlock Origin will make ClickUp (randomly) unusable.

gtirloni 4y ago
> I'm not going to live in my issue tracker. You're very lucky.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  Really, it's nicer to have a very-lightweight one if you do have to live in it. The #1 feature I've wanted in Jira and Asana is the ability to have links open in a plain-HTML version that comes up almost instantly, but is read-only (or at has very limited write capabilities) and has a link at the top for the full-fat version. I hate clicking a link to one of those and waiting several seconds for it to load, then feeling like I can't leave their stupid tab open because it's eating 500MB of memory—which just means I cold-start their "app" even more often, so more waiting. I also don't like browsing issues in an "app" where any mis-click or accidental drag action might do god-knows-what even if it didn't land on something obviously interactive, and could even go unnoticed so I don't even realize I need to try to undo something. I get that I'm not going to win any arguments that these things shouldn't be so enormous to begin with (they really, really shouldn't though) but I hold out a small amount of hope "lightweight links as an opt-in feature" might catch on.
dotancohen 4y ago
I highly recommend playing with Redmine - there are a few companies that have guest Redmine instances set up. I've used just about every project management tool for personal and small teams (up to a dozen devs and lead) from 2010ish to about 2020 (when the trend to post another one every week on Show HN began). I always come back to Redmine - it's that good. Easy to add tasks, easy to set dependencies, easy to see at a glance where the project is and what is stalling it. And very little javascript.
- schipplock 4y ago
  Redmine is nice, using it since 2011 :).
OJFord 4y ago
Weird, 'half-baked, heavy' is how I'd describe Jira. It does so much, without cohesion; the only thing its myriad features align on is making it slow and clunky! Try moving an issue for a fun one - it throws you into some janky full-page multi-step form, except it's all done on step 2 and there's seemingly no reason it couldn't have been done from the more 'app-like' UI you were previously in. I don't know if it is, but it gives me a very Java vibe - but maybe I'm just being unfair to Java.

by dig1 4y ago

gtirloni 4y ago

> I'm not going to live in my issue tracker. You're very lucky.

yamtaddle 4y ago
Really, it's nicer to have a very-lightweight one if you do have to live in it. The #1 feature I've wanted in Jira and Asana is the ability to have links open in a plain-HTML version that comes up almost instantly, but is read-only (or at has very limited write capabilities) and has a link at the top for the full-fat version. I hate clicking a link to one of those and waiting several seconds for it to load, then feeling like I can't leave their stupid tab open because it's eating 500MB of memory—which just means I cold-start their "app" even more often, so more waiting. I also don't like browsing issues in an "app" where any mis-click or accidental drag action might do god-knows-what even if it didn't land on something obviously interactive, and could even go unnoticed so I don't even realize I need to try to undo something. I get that I'm not going to win any arguments that these things shouldn't be so enormous to begin with (they really, really shouldn't though) but I hold out a small amount of hope "lightweight links as an opt-in feature" might catch on.

dotancohen 4y ago

I highly recommend playing with Redmine - there are a few companies that have guest Redmine instances set up. I've used just about every project management tool for personal and small teams (up to a dozen devs and lead) from 2010ish to about 2020 (when the trend to post another one every week on Show HN began). I always come back to Redmine - it's that good. Easy to add tasks, easy to set dependencies, easy to see at a glance where the project is and what is stalling it. And very little javascript.

schipplock 4y ago
Redmine is nice, using it since 2011 :).

OJFord 4y ago

Weird, 'half-baked, heavy' is how I'd describe Jira. It does so much, without cohesion; the only thing its myriad features align on is making it slow and clunky! Try moving an issue for a fun one - it throws you into some janky full-page multi-step form, except it's all done on step 2 and there's seemingly no reason it couldn't have been done from the more 'app-like' UI you were previously in. I don't know if it is, but it gives me a very Java vibe - but maybe I'm just being unfair to Java.