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Ignoring your personal attack, I think there is a difference in how people see therapy based on where they are from. The US seems to do a lot of therapy-is-goo

by lynx23 4y ago

Ignoring your personal attack, I think there is a difference in how people see therapy based on where they are from. The US seems to do a lot of therapy-is-good propaganda in the last 20 years. In Europe, this propaganda hasn't arrived fully yet, although we feel it already.

comfypotato 4y ago
@imdsm, please read my other comment on your parent before responding to this. I personally had a nice morning because of this pleasant app. I wish for others to have a similarly nice day, and an antagonistic response from you would risk HN's NLP automatically removing it from the front page.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
  I don't think it's within the spirit of HN to repeatedly tell people to censor themselves to appease some ranking algorithm. What's the source on that NLP stuff on HN, never heard of it, I'm curious to read more.
  - comfypotato 4y ago
    The spirit of kindness is in the guidelines: "Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." [1] I didn't ask people to censor themselves, just to be nice. I've also acknowledged that I'm no mediator, moderator, or arbiter. I just had a great time with the app and feel compelled to help others like me get access to it. Am I doing something that is prohibited in the guidelines? "Flame-War Detector" discusses the NLP a bit. [2] Also, it's implied by the second answer in the FAQ. [3] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [2] https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#flame-war-detector https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#flame-... [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
    - ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
      I'm not speaking of the guidelines, I'm speaking of the quality of the discussion. It reads like spam, in my opinion, to post the same off-topic response to every mildly argumentative comment on this post in order to preserve the post's ranking, especially since some of those responses come across as passive aggressive. And it is somewhat paradoxical to enforce toxic, seemingly insincere positivity in a post about mental health. Thank you for the Github links, that's an interesting ranking mechanism.
      - comfypotato 4y ago
        Definitely not insincere (I have no basis on which to judge toxicity). As a result of your communication, I've stopped spamming said comments. It's just a well-done and very helpful app. It's current position at the top of the front page shows that I'm not alone in this sentiment. Again, I only wanted for others in need of the boost to their day to get access to the link. As I mentioned (in another comment where someone else agrees with you that my positivity is unhelpful), the app isn't needed by everyone. It's not rocket science to understand that a recent/timestamp-young post on the front page is more sensitive to algorithmic downranking. I just did what I could to defend a positive sentiment in the comment section for long enough that the link could establish itself. It's all in the spirit of promoting well-being among the users of HN. I appreciate your feedback (though I'm a little bit confused as to why you view my actions in a negative light). Does the success of my endeavor to establish the post on the front page of HN not show that my motivation aligns with the attitude around here? (Perhaps it has nothing to do with me, I acknowledge that (but doubt it.)) Your welcome for the GitHub links. That whole repo fascinates me.
        rep_lodsb 4y ago
        >It's just a well-done and very helpful app. In your opinion. >It's current position at the top of the front page shows that I'm not alone in this sentiment. To a more cynical person it also suggests that one group of posters is very highly motivated to push this topic. And may even be doing so in an organized effort, rather than as individuals posting their genuine opinions. >It's all in the spirit of promoting well-being among the users of HN. "Have you heard the good news of our Lord and Saviour?"
theCrowing 4y ago
Propaganda? You believe that mental health care is politically driven?
- lynx23 4y ago
  No. I believe every profession needs to do some PR for their services such that everyone wanting to work in that profession actually gets to find a job. So the more therapists there are, the more "propaganda" you need such that they actually can find customers. And listening to casual conversations in US soaps, it is rather obvious from a bystander perspective that therapy-is-something-you-want is an agenda that is being pushed since at least 20 years.
  - theCrowing 4y ago
    Why use the word propaganda? Makes your comment really stand out as flame bait.
    - comfypotato 4y ago
      Ay! @lynx23 at risk of annoying you with another request to keep with the positive tone of the post... Please entertain this honest question with a reasonable response. I'm no mediator, arbiter, or moderator. I'm just enjoying this app a lot and don't want other folks to reduce themselves to negativity. Sorry for sticking my nose in your business.
      - lynx23 4y ago
        OK dang, I will do my best to only spread joy-joy feelings!
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    - lynx23 4y ago
      I personally dont make much of a destinction between PR, Ads and Propaganda. Especially since 2020. I am sorry if I triggered you. Did not mean to.

by lynx23 4y ago

comfypotato 4y ago

@imdsm, please read my other comment on your parent before responding to this. I personally had a nice morning because of this pleasant app. I wish for others to have a similarly nice day, and an antagonistic response from you would risk HN's NLP automatically removing it from the front page.

ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
I don't think it's within the spirit of HN to repeatedly tell people to censor themselves to appease some ranking algorithm. What's the source on that NLP stuff on HN, never heard of it, I'm curious to read more.
- comfypotato 4y ago
  The spirit of kindness is in the guidelines: "Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." [1] I didn't ask people to censor themselves, just to be nice. I've also acknowledged that I'm no mediator, moderator, or arbiter. I just had a great time with the app and feel compelled to help others like me get access to it. Am I doing something that is prohibited in the guidelines? "Flame-War Detector" discusses the NLP a bit. [2] Also, it's implied by the second answer in the FAQ. [3] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [2] https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#flame-war-detector https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#flame-... [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
  - ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
    I'm not speaking of the guidelines, I'm speaking of the quality of the discussion. It reads like spam, in my opinion, to post the same off-topic response to every mildly argumentative comment on this post in order to preserve the post's ranking, especially since some of those responses come across as passive aggressive. And it is somewhat paradoxical to enforce toxic, seemingly insincere positivity in a post about mental health. Thank you for the Github links, that's an interesting ranking mechanism.
    - comfypotato 4y ago
      Definitely not insincere (I have no basis on which to judge toxicity). As a result of your communication, I've stopped spamming said comments. It's just a well-done and very helpful app. It's current position at the top of the front page shows that I'm not alone in this sentiment. Again, I only wanted for others in need of the boost to their day to get access to the link. As I mentioned (in another comment where someone else agrees with you that my positivity is unhelpful), the app isn't needed by everyone. It's not rocket science to understand that a recent/timestamp-young post on the front page is more sensitive to algorithmic downranking. I just did what I could to defend a positive sentiment in the comment section for long enough that the link could establish itself. It's all in the spirit of promoting well-being among the users of HN. I appreciate your feedback (though I'm a little bit confused as to why you view my actions in a negative light). Does the success of my endeavor to establish the post on the front page of HN not show that my motivation aligns with the attitude around here? (Perhaps it has nothing to do with me, I acknowledge that (but doubt it.)) Your welcome for the GitHub links. That whole repo fascinates me.
      - rep_lodsb 4y ago
        >It's just a well-done and very helpful app. In your opinion. >It's current position at the top of the front page shows that I'm not alone in this sentiment. To a more cynical person it also suggests that one group of posters is very highly motivated to push this topic. And may even be doing so in an organized effort, rather than as individuals posting their genuine opinions. >It's all in the spirit of promoting well-being among the users of HN. "Have you heard the good news of our Lord and Saviour?"

theCrowing 4y ago

Propaganda? You believe that mental health care is politically driven?

lynx23 4y ago
No. I believe every profession needs to do some PR for their services such that everyone wanting to work in that profession actually gets to find a job. So the more therapists there are, the more "propaganda" you need such that they actually can find customers. And listening to casual conversations in US soaps, it is rather obvious from a bystander perspective that therapy-is-something-you-want is an agenda that is being pushed since at least 20 years.
- theCrowing 4y ago
  Why use the word propaganda? Makes your comment really stand out as flame bait.
  - comfypotato 4y ago
    Ay! @lynx23 at risk of annoying you with another request to keep with the positive tone of the post... Please entertain this honest question with a reasonable response. I'm no mediator, arbiter, or moderator. I'm just enjoying this app a lot and don't want other folks to reduce themselves to negativity. Sorry for sticking my nose in your business.
    - lynx23 4y ago
      OK dang, I will do my best to only spread joy-joy feelings!
      - deleted 4y ago
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  - lynx23 4y ago
    I personally dont make much of a destinction between PR, Ads and Propaganda. Especially since 2020. I am sorry if I triggered you. Did not mean to.