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I think the cycle repeats itself, there used to be bloat-wares like Eclipse (IntelliFuck) that programmers would swear by. Then came Sublime and people had a re
by soheil 4y ago
I think the cycle repeats itself, there used to be bloat-wares like Eclipse (IntelliFuck) that programmers would swear by. Then came Sublime and people had a revelation about how light and fast an IDE can and should be. Recently there has been another wave of hipster programmers swearing by bloat-wares like VSCode.
Now people have to rediscover Emacs from 47 years ago.
- eloisant 4y agoIt's really funny that people see Emacs as an alternative to bloatware. For most of its history, Emacs has been the very definition of bloatware.
- tmtvl 4y agoWhat do you mean, doesn't every IDE need its own Infocom-esque text adventure, psychoanalyst, IRC client, web browser, Morse code translator, ASCII art drawing tools, and Tetris implementation? Of course all that bloat is an acceptable price to pay for the best editor available.
- ris58h 4y agoSorry but Sublime isn't an IDE. It's a text editor. Emacs and Vim too.
- prmoustache 4y agoIt all depends at which level you configure them in the end. vanilla emacs/vim with default config are just editors, but they can be configured to have most if not all the functionnalities of an ide.
- ris58h 4y agoI agree but people often compare vanilla text editors with fully-featured IDEs which doesn't make sense.
- soheil 4y agoAnything that does syntax highlighting, jumps to definition and allows you to install additional packages/functionality is an IDE and everything else that you call an IDE is actually bloatware (see, I can do that too.) No, I don't need to freaking have a goddamn FTP and SSH client built into the tool that I so heavily rely on every day just because there is a use case for it in someone's brain that is orthogonal to the vast majority of its users'. Also fuck the evil that is Codespaces.