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I agree with most of the stuff in the article. Seems like they have a good engineering culture at gitlab. Which is a pity because their business sense is awful

I agree with most of the stuff in the article. Seems like they have a good engineering culture at gitlab. Which is a pity because their business sense is awful. The first major issue was the whole deleting inactive repositories debacle. They never officially announced it, but they never denied it, and were commenting on the outrage as if they were planning to go ahead with it. The whole way they handled that left a sour taste in my mouth. So I casually started looking for somewhere else to host my code. And during this time, I suddenly realized something else: if you are not logged in, the "explore page" or whatever you want to call it has disappeared. I have no idea when this happened, but it shocked me. It still exists (https://gitlab.com/explore https://gitlab.com/explore) but there is no link to it anywhere. On github, they don't make it easy to find, but at least it is still there. As a place that is pro open source, why would you go out of your way to hide all the open source code on your platform? This utter disconnect between their values and their actions is very off putting. I've moved all my stuff to codeberg.org and have been very happy since. At least they give a crap about open source software AND do something about it.

dncornholio 4y ago
No company is perfect.. I log into Gitlab, stuff works, devs are happy. Everything else is a bonus. No explore page? who cares, devs are still happy. Inactive repositories debacle? No time for that, to be honest! I think you are holding Gitlab to the wrong standards.
- executesorder66 4y ago
  Of course no company is perfect, and I don't expect perfection. Github is owned by Microsoft, so I have very low expectations of their morals. But gitlab say that they value open source. So that was the standard that I was holding them against. If a code forge claims to support and value open source software, why would they hide all the open source code on their platform? Why would they consider deleting stale open source repos? I was just holding them up to their own standards, but I see they don't care about that. It's similar to holding Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox browsers to different standards. Google doesn't claim to give a shit about privacy, but Mozilla do. So when Firefox does some privacy blunder people get upset. But when Chrome does it, people don't care because they already had such low expectations of Google. Some people try to live their lives by their principals, and not just "as a bonus".

dncornholio 4y ago

No company is perfect.. I log into Gitlab, stuff works, devs are happy. Everything else is a bonus. No explore page? who cares, devs are still happy. Inactive repositories debacle? No time for that, to be honest! I think you are holding Gitlab to the wrong standards.

executesorder66 4y ago
Of course no company is perfect, and I don't expect perfection. Github is owned by Microsoft, so I have very low expectations of their morals. But gitlab say that they value open source. So that was the standard that I was holding them against. If a code forge claims to support and value open source software, why would they hide all the open source code on their platform? Why would they consider deleting stale open source repos? I was just holding them up to their own standards, but I see they don't care about that. It's similar to holding Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox browsers to different standards. Google doesn't claim to give a shit about privacy, but Mozilla do. So when Firefox does some privacy blunder people get upset. But when Chrome does it, people don't care because they already had such low expectations of Google. Some people try to live their lives by their principals, and not just "as a bonus".