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Well, you certainly have your mind made up. By the way, the founders were skeptical about democracy too, and weren't sure whether it would work. They tried to

Well, you certainly have your mind made up. By the way, the founders were skeptical about democracy too, and weren't sure whether it would work. They tried to mitigate the obvious problems with it (as Thiel points out) by creating a Constitutional Republic instead, dampening the threat of the tyranny of the majority. It's been reasonably successful so far, and has lasted longer than some of them thought it would. Perhaps they should be scorned as well?

clouddrover 4y ago
> Well, you certainly have your mind made up. It's not that I've made my mind up, it's that Thiel has made up his. > Perhaps they should be scorned as well? Dumb ideas will always be scorned. That is the correct result.
- claytongulick 4y ago
  > Dumb ideas will always be scorned. That is the correct result. So the founders had dumb ideas? Or is it the idea of a Constitutional Republic that's dumb? Because it was designed specifically to reduce the threats posed by raw democracy. It was only about 100 years ago that Senate elections were changed to a popular vote (17th amendment). Prior to that they were assigned by the state legislature. Discussing the weaknesses of Democracy is dumb? You must be much smarter than most philosophers, political science scholars and the founders themselves then.
brnt 4y ago
> Well, you certainly have your mind made up. There's only one here ignoring evidence.
- claytongulick 4y ago
  What evidence would you say I'm ignoring? An opinion piece in the Washington Post? There have been wild claims made in this thread, like Thiel wants to abolish democracy, and that he wants to be a king, etc... Yet I haven't seen any evidence of him saying anything like that. If he has, then be all means, I'd like to see it. But so far the only thing I've seen is partisan cheap shots without any substance.

clouddrover 4y ago

> Well, you certainly have your mind made up. It's not that I've made my mind up, it's that Thiel has made up his. > Perhaps they should be scorned as well? Dumb ideas will always be scorned. That is the correct result.

claytongulick 4y ago
> Dumb ideas will always be scorned. That is the correct result. So the founders had dumb ideas? Or is it the idea of a Constitutional Republic that's dumb? Because it was designed specifically to reduce the threats posed by raw democracy. It was only about 100 years ago that Senate elections were changed to a popular vote (17th amendment). Prior to that they were assigned by the state legislature. Discussing the weaknesses of Democracy is dumb? You must be much smarter than most philosophers, political science scholars and the founders themselves then.

brnt 4y ago

> Well, you certainly have your mind made up. There's only one here ignoring evidence.

claytongulick 4y ago
What evidence would you say I'm ignoring? An opinion piece in the Washington Post? There have been wild claims made in this thread, like Thiel wants to abolish democracy, and that he wants to be a king, etc... Yet I haven't seen any evidence of him saying anything like that. If he has, then be all means, I'd like to see it. But so far the only thing I've seen is partisan cheap shots without any substance.