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Same here. At massive scale, sure, it might make sense to run your own infrastructure and data centres. Some may even run their own private cloud and get the b

Same here. At massive scale, sure, it might make sense to run your own infrastructure and data centres. Some may even run their own private cloud and get the benefits we see from the public cloud today from their own IT depts. The vast majority of us however had nothing in common with the above. Like you we ran the hardware, and to the business, we were never more than a cost centre and anything pitched to the broader business to "improve" outcomes for the development teams were seen as a cost without benefit. I find a lot of people who are proponents for getting rid of the cloud never had to manage their own infrastructure, and have very rose tinted glasses for a reality that never existed for most.

quickthrower2 4y ago
I am more the other way. Even the big clouds are too “serverful” for me, and for very small things a modern PaaS is much easier to deal with.
- LilBytes 4y ago
  Admittedly I've not worked in many environments that could ever be described as being anything less than 'enterprise', and within orders of magnitude larger than medium/large businesses. If you had a niche market and only needed a small footprint. I can see a handful of VPS' or similar being suitable. But once you get to the 200+ people mark, it gets messy. And gets much worse at 2,000 head. And worse yet at 20,000.