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It also doesn't support very common CPUs like the Intel i5 that are still being sold today and included in new PCs. Maybe not state-of-the-art top-of-the-line

It also doesn't support very common CPUs like the Intel i5 that are still being sold today and included in new PCs. Maybe not state-of-the-art top-of-the-line PCs, but PCs that people are buying today. PCs people will be getting for Christmas. That's not a question of 'supporting old stuff forever'. If it was an old Core2 Duo, discontinued in 2012, it kinda makes sense that they might not bother to support that past Win10. But a PC can easily last 10 years, and still work fine if you've got enough RAM and drive space. So there are new PCs being bought today that may be stuck on Windows 10 for the next decade or more (unless 12 fixes that).

nikanj 4y ago
Which model of i5 would that be and when was it released? Intel has been releasing processors under the i5 moniker since 2009, obviously not all of them are supported.
- Falkon1313 4y ago
  Mine is an i5-6500, which was a hot new thing in 2016 when I built the PC, and still works excellently. Typical utilization with tons of windows open and running is 20% or less (usually much less). It never breaks a sweat playing games or doing anything that normal people would do. It's maybe 7 years old at most, not archaic tech at all. I know back in the 90s, when we were going from 8088s to 486s to pentiums, things were rapidly changing with noticeable improvements every year. But that era is long past. Even a rinky-dink CPU by today's standards is way more than enough for normal use and will never get close to stressed unless you're doing experiments with CPU-heavy algorithms or something. And they've been that way for a long time now. They can fill their purpose perfectly well for a decade or more. In fact, my previous PC had a 2006 CPU which still handled everything just fine in 2016, the upgrade was only needed due to RAM (which required a new motherboard and thus a new CPU). To consider a CPU 'not good enough' just because it's a few years old makes no sense now. I would understand if they didn't support that 2006 Core-2 Duo any more. But to not support a 2016 i5-6500 in 2022? That does not make sense.
  - CRConrad 4y ago
    > I know back in the 90s, when we were going from 8088s to 486s to pentiums 80286 to 80386 to 80486 to Pentium. 8088 to 80286 was in the 1980s. The 80386 introduced in the 1980s, IIRC, but became more common in the 1990s. (And don't forget the 80386SX -- a 386 with the 286's 16-bit interface! :-)

nikanj 4y ago

Which model of i5 would that be and when was it released? Intel has been releasing processors under the i5 moniker since 2009, obviously not all of them are supported.

Falkon1313 4y ago
Mine is an i5-6500, which was a hot new thing in 2016 when I built the PC, and still works excellently. Typical utilization with tons of windows open and running is 20% or less (usually much less). It never breaks a sweat playing games or doing anything that normal people would do. It's maybe 7 years old at most, not archaic tech at all. I know back in the 90s, when we were going from 8088s to 486s to pentiums, things were rapidly changing with noticeable improvements every year. But that era is long past. Even a rinky-dink CPU by today's standards is way more than enough for normal use and will never get close to stressed unless you're doing experiments with CPU-heavy algorithms or something. And they've been that way for a long time now. They can fill their purpose perfectly well for a decade or more. In fact, my previous PC had a 2006 CPU which still handled everything just fine in 2016, the upgrade was only needed due to RAM (which required a new motherboard and thus a new CPU). To consider a CPU 'not good enough' just because it's a few years old makes no sense now. I would understand if they didn't support that 2006 Core-2 Duo any more. But to not support a 2016 i5-6500 in 2022? That does not make sense.
- CRConrad 4y ago
  > I know back in the 90s, when we were going from 8088s to 486s to pentiums 80286 to 80386 to 80486 to Pentium. 8088 to 80286 was in the 1980s. The 80386 introduced in the 1980s, IIRC, but became more common in the 1990s. (And don't forget the 80386SX -- a 386 with the 286's 16-bit interface! :-)