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How much have you followed along with the progression of grey area drugs over the last 30 years? Who was it that started the opioid epidemic again? Yeah, I'm t

How much have you followed along with the progression of grey area drugs over the last 30 years? Who was it that started the opioid epidemic again? Yeah, I'm thinking the solution is ban more stuff and then hand the reigns back to the regulators who have definitely not been subject to regulatory capture by the companies that started the opioid epidemic.

whatshisface 4y ago
Why should the companies that pushed opioids be allowed to push anything else? All those doctors who knew they were overperscribing opioids to addicts knew what they were doing, and they would do it with any other drug too.
- eindiran 4y ago
  I love how nuanced the thinkers of HN are. Given the responses here, evidently the options are to either (a) let Purdue market heroin to kids or (b) ban all non-pharmaceutical drugs and give no-knock warrants to FULLY TACTICAL® DEA AGENTS so that they can smash in the doors of non compliers. EDIT: this was in response to the pre-edit version of the comment. I think the current version of your comment is much more reasonable. I broadly agree with your point: when people have bad incentives they will do bad things. So my response to that is to try to give doctors better incentives, and limit the extent to which pharmaceutical companies like Purdue can inject perverse incentives back into the system.
- pigeons 4y ago
  I totally thought it was sarcasm
NovemberWhiskey 4y ago
I really am confused here - are you say there should be regulation, but it should be done better, or that there should not?
- eindiran 4y ago
  "Yeah, I'm thinking the solution is ban more stuff and then hand the reigns back to the regulators who have definitely not been subject to regulatory capture by the companies that started the opioid epidemic." That is sarcasm. Prohibition has failed and the growth of grey area drugs ("designer" drugs) is one of the direct consequences. I am not arguing against regulation, I am arguing against prohibition. As JumpCrisscross brought up, they are very different things.
  - NovemberWhiskey 4y ago
    None of e.g. fentanyl, methamphetamine or cocaine are "prohibited" since they're Schedule II drugs.

whatshisface 4y ago

Why should the companies that pushed opioids be allowed to push anything else? All those doctors who knew they were overperscribing opioids to addicts knew what they were doing, and they would do it with any other drug too.

eindiran 4y ago
I love how nuanced the thinkers of HN are. Given the responses here, evidently the options are to either (a) let Purdue market heroin to kids or (b) ban all non-pharmaceutical drugs and give no-knock warrants to FULLY TACTICAL® DEA AGENTS so that they can smash in the doors of non compliers. EDIT: this was in response to the pre-edit version of the comment. I think the current version of your comment is much more reasonable. I broadly agree with your point: when people have bad incentives they will do bad things. So my response to that is to try to give doctors better incentives, and limit the extent to which pharmaceutical companies like Purdue can inject perverse incentives back into the system.
pigeons 4y ago
I totally thought it was sarcasm

NovemberWhiskey 4y ago

I really am confused here - are you say there should be regulation, but it should be done better, or that there should not?

eindiran 4y ago
"Yeah, I'm thinking the solution is ban more stuff and then hand the reigns back to the regulators who have definitely not been subject to regulatory capture by the companies that started the opioid epidemic." That is sarcasm. Prohibition has failed and the growth of grey area drugs ("designer" drugs) is one of the direct consequences. I am not arguing against regulation, I am arguing against prohibition. As JumpCrisscross brought up, they are very different things.
- NovemberWhiskey 4y ago
  None of e.g. fentanyl, methamphetamine or cocaine are "prohibited" since they're Schedule II drugs.