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That kind of comports with how the UI in windows has behaved from 98>XP>7>8>10. In 10, you get the windows 10 UI on most of your top-level interfaces, but once

That kind of comports with how the UI in windows has behaved from 98>XP>7>8>10. In 10, you get the windows 10 UI on most of your top-level interfaces, but once you dive into a sub-menu you get some legacy UI and if you dig down deep enough you get UI from what feels like windows 98.

torben-friis 4y ago
Weirdly enough, that's one of the things that originally made me want to explore options outside windows. The mobile ecosystem kept changing and taking you into new experiences (even before smartphones). Meanwhile, a Windows desktop never felt like something new. Just a layer of paint over the old creaky house. I even remember a 'smartphone' of sorts I had before android was a thing, which run windows phone: They literally shoved the desktop version there, I remember not being able to click buttons even with a stylus because the ui was so small for the device. The most popular app was some weird dragon themed overlay that, lo and behold, gave it finger-sized buttons.
- TillE 4y ago
  It's just some moldy old bits of UI, the actual Windows kernel itself has evolved substantially over the years.
  - gumboza 4y ago
    That's the sad thing. The core of windows is pretty good. It's just the mismanagement and shell that's a shit show.
- vel0city 4y ago
  It wasn't "Windows Phone", it was Windows Mobile or Pocket PC 2000. All the releases of Windows Phone definitely didn't have a UI like the regular desktop version of Windows and only existed after the release of Android.
  - torben-friis 4y ago
    Yes, you’re right! Windows mobile, I totally forgot about the actual windows phone, that came later.
    - vel0city 4y ago
      It is definitely a common mixup. Microsoft really dropped the ball on having a consistent product and a consistent name in their mobile play.
- RajT88 4y ago
  > Meanwhile, a Windows desktop never felt like something new. Well. There was plenty of "new" UI enhancements over the years which I resisted as much as possible. Imagine a meme of Garth from Wayne's World, "We fear change..." I always hated the more smooth and colorful Windows XP theme. Computers back then were resource constrained enough that you'd notice the fact that it wasn't "free". It wasn't until Windows 10 that I stopped trying to make the shell look as much like Win2k as possible. The extra UI eye candy on modern systems is as near as matters "free" now, as long as you have plenty of RAM. Now I am just trying to make Windows 11 look as much like Windows 10 as possible.
  - icelancer 4y ago
    > Now I am just trying to make Windows 11 look as much like Windows 10 as possible. Same. Start11 goes a long way, but still lots of annoying stuff in W11.
  - userbinator 4y ago
    The extra UI eye candy on modern systems is as near as matters "free" now, as long as you have plenty of RAM. I'm not sure there's much "eye candy" in modern UI anymore, given the regression to completely flat, sometimes even borderless UI elements starting in Win8.
    - RajT88 4y ago
      I mean. Win10 looks really goddamned fancy compared to Win2k. =)
      - CRConrad 4y ago
        No, W10 looks butt-ugly compared to W2K.
gumboza 4y ago
It's worse. There's some windows 3.1 hiding in the ODBC configuration... https://imgur.com/XOmCyEG https://imgur.com/XOmCyEG
- oblio 4y ago
  Is this still there in Win 11 2022?
  - RajT88 4y ago
    Just checked. It is. I am not surprised - I feel like I was marveling over some similar ODBC dialog back in 2009.
    - unilynx 4y ago
      An 'old' settings dialog in Windows is usually to support old drivers who still want/need to extend that dialog with driver specific options. You will probably still see it in the network settings too if you dig deep enough
dylan604 4y ago
Did you intentionally skip Vista?
- rightbyte 4y ago
  Funny how I totally forgot that one existed. The only time I saw it in use was a friend's laptop. And it was laggy like hell and he soon installed XP.
  - doubled112 4y ago
    Dare I say it, but Vista ran pretty well on the PC I bought that was eligible for the free 7 upgrade program. It was pretty late in the game. I suppose 2 service packs and a couple of generations of hardware improvements helped.
    - rightbyte 4y ago
      Ye, maybe it was just too bloated for the machines at release time which wrecked its reputation.
- PracticalHelp 4y ago
  And Windows Me.
icelancer 4y ago
Yeah, especially around Control Panel legacy stuff. It's so odd.

torben-friis 4y ago

Weirdly enough, that's one of the things that originally made me want to explore options outside windows. The mobile ecosystem kept changing and taking you into new experiences (even before smartphones). Meanwhile, a Windows desktop never felt like something new. Just a layer of paint over the old creaky house. I even remember a 'smartphone' of sorts I had before android was a thing, which run windows phone: They literally shoved the desktop version there, I remember not being able to click buttons even with a stylus because the ui was so small for the device. The most popular app was some weird dragon themed overlay that, lo and behold, gave it finger-sized buttons.

TillE 4y ago
It's just some moldy old bits of UI, the actual Windows kernel itself has evolved substantially over the years.
- gumboza 4y ago
  That's the sad thing. The core of windows is pretty good. It's just the mismanagement and shell that's a shit show.
vel0city 4y ago
It wasn't "Windows Phone", it was Windows Mobile or Pocket PC 2000. All the releases of Windows Phone definitely didn't have a UI like the regular desktop version of Windows and only existed after the release of Android.
- torben-friis 4y ago
  Yes, you’re right! Windows mobile, I totally forgot about the actual windows phone, that came later.
  - vel0city 4y ago
    It is definitely a common mixup. Microsoft really dropped the ball on having a consistent product and a consistent name in their mobile play.
RajT88 4y ago
> Meanwhile, a Windows desktop never felt like something new. Well. There was plenty of "new" UI enhancements over the years which I resisted as much as possible. Imagine a meme of Garth from Wayne's World, "We fear change..." I always hated the more smooth and colorful Windows XP theme. Computers back then were resource constrained enough that you'd notice the fact that it wasn't "free". It wasn't until Windows 10 that I stopped trying to make the shell look as much like Win2k as possible. The extra UI eye candy on modern systems is as near as matters "free" now, as long as you have plenty of RAM. Now I am just trying to make Windows 11 look as much like Windows 10 as possible.
- icelancer 4y ago
  > Now I am just trying to make Windows 11 look as much like Windows 10 as possible. Same. Start11 goes a long way, but still lots of annoying stuff in W11.
- userbinator 4y ago
  The extra UI eye candy on modern systems is as near as matters "free" now, as long as you have plenty of RAM. I'm not sure there's much "eye candy" in modern UI anymore, given the regression to completely flat, sometimes even borderless UI elements starting in Win8.
  - RajT88 4y ago
    I mean. Win10 looks really goddamned fancy compared to Win2k. =)
    - CRConrad 4y ago
      No, W10 looks butt-ugly compared to W2K.

gumboza 4y ago

It's worse. There's some windows 3.1 hiding in the ODBC configuration... https://imgur.com/XOmCyEG https://imgur.com/XOmCyEG

oblio 4y ago
Is this still there in Win 11 2022?
- RajT88 4y ago
  Just checked. It is. I am not surprised - I feel like I was marveling over some similar ODBC dialog back in 2009.
  - unilynx 4y ago
    An 'old' settings dialog in Windows is usually to support old drivers who still want/need to extend that dialog with driver specific options. You will probably still see it in the network settings too if you dig deep enough

dylan604 4y ago

Did you intentionally skip Vista?

rightbyte 4y ago
Funny how I totally forgot that one existed. The only time I saw it in use was a friend's laptop. And it was laggy like hell and he soon installed XP.
- doubled112 4y ago
  Dare I say it, but Vista ran pretty well on the PC I bought that was eligible for the free 7 upgrade program. It was pretty late in the game. I suppose 2 service packs and a couple of generations of hardware improvements helped.
  - rightbyte 4y ago
    Ye, maybe it was just too bloated for the machines at release time which wrecked its reputation.
PracticalHelp 4y ago
And Windows Me.

icelancer 4y ago

Yeah, especially around Control Panel legacy stuff. It's so odd.