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Recently, I was required to use a PC that had Windows 11 on it. I tried to set it up like the rest of my computers, which involves moving the task bar from the

Recently, I was required to use a PC that had Windows 11 on it. I tried to set it up like the rest of my computers, which involves moving the task bar from the bottom of the screen to the side, which I've done for years in Windows. Yeah, W11 doesn't support that. If you do some digging you'll find MS claiming it's a large technical lift that they have no current plans to do. What does this mean with regards to your question? Not much. But that regression in functionality, in an area that every other OS I use supports and has supported for years, definitely suggests the thing is a hack. In my humble uninformed opinion.

stagger87 4y ago
They have since added the ability to do this.
- mikebridgman 4y ago
  Do you have a link? It seems it still requires a 3rd party app.
- TehCorwiz 4y ago
  The location of the Windows 11 taskbar cannot be set through any UI options. They do not officially support changing the location of the taskbar according to available documentation. The upgrade message inside Windows 10 explicitly calls out this deficiency along with other before continuing. There are registry hacks that change the location, but this is unsupported. Docs: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/how-to-use-the-taskbar-in-windows-0657a50f-0cc7-dbfd-ae6b-05020b195b07 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/how-to-use-the-t...
  - fbdab103 4y ago
    >registry hacks that change the location, but this is unsupported. I am imagining the dire warning next to this prompt. Don't rewire the position of the taskbar or your computer just might catch a virus.
  - userbinator 4y ago
    In other words, it seems they removed the UI to change it but left the underlying code alone, presumably because it's an easier change and they want to judge how much people would complain first (before, possibly, later re-enabling the UI to do it and praising themselves for how much better they've made things.)
- anoonmoose 4y ago
  I just looked into this like...last week, and couldn't find anything, and if it's possible without third-party add-ons, I'd be extremely surprised. But I won't consider that to be the case until I see a link with instructions that work.
- sacnoradhq 4y ago
  This is false.
Falkon1313 4y ago
Isn't it pretty well known that every other version of Windows is a badly-done flop? 98/2000 were great, ME wasn't, XP was great, Vista was awful, 7 was great, 8 was really awful, 10 is excellent, 11 is therefore almost certainly one to skip. I'm kind of surprised so many people are installing Windows 11, given the history (and the fact that it doesn't support common CPUs like the Intel i5). I'll just wait for W12.
- conductr 4y ago
  Not sure if true, but it’s always felt like the flops were just a new GUI skin on top of the previous good OS. Mostly in weird ways because they end up trying to redesign some things they already got right.
- goosedragons 4y ago
  Vista was pretty good on decent hardware especially after it's SP1. Most of the troubles came from OEMs putting it on hardware it should not have been on and MS allowing that. It's other source of troubles was changing up the driver model in big ways and companies like Nvidia not being ready in the beginning. I built my first PC after Windows 7 came out. However some peice of hardware in there caused W7 to blue screen after about 5 minutes use every time. Vista though was rock solid and I honestly ended up liking it's desktop more than W7, only thing I missed was window snapping. Windows 11 also supports i5s...It just doesn't support i5s from 6 years ago, nor i7s from then.
- LeonenTheDK 4y ago
  It does indeed support common CPUs like the Intel i5 (and a bunch of others I forgot existed): https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/mi... But if you're referring to lack of official support for 9th gen and older CPUs, then it is indeed a pain in the butt. Plenty of valid computers losing official support because reasons is a travesty, but at least W10 is still getting updates for a while I guess? FWIW I have a PC with an i7-7700 and no TPM running W11 for the heck of it, and it runs fine, but it wasn't happy about it. This is just the TV PC, so nothing critical; I wouldn't do this on anything even remotely important.
rkagerer 4y ago
Not sure if it works in Windows 11 yet, but Classic Start Menu is a prerequisite of mine on all Windows PC's I use for any length of time.

stagger87 4y ago

They have since added the ability to do this.

mikebridgman 4y ago
Do you have a link? It seems it still requires a 3rd party app.
TehCorwiz 4y ago
The location of the Windows 11 taskbar cannot be set through any UI options. They do not officially support changing the location of the taskbar according to available documentation. The upgrade message inside Windows 10 explicitly calls out this deficiency along with other before continuing. There are registry hacks that change the location, but this is unsupported. Docs: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/how-to-use-the-taskbar-in-windows-0657a50f-0cc7-dbfd-ae6b-05020b195b07 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/how-to-use-the-t...
- fbdab103 4y ago
  >registry hacks that change the location, but this is unsupported. I am imagining the dire warning next to this prompt. Don't rewire the position of the taskbar or your computer just might catch a virus.
- userbinator 4y ago
  In other words, it seems they removed the UI to change it but left the underlying code alone, presumably because it's an easier change and they want to judge how much people would complain first (before, possibly, later re-enabling the UI to do it and praising themselves for how much better they've made things.)
anoonmoose 4y ago
I just looked into this like...last week, and couldn't find anything, and if it's possible without third-party add-ons, I'd be extremely surprised. But I won't consider that to be the case until I see a link with instructions that work.
sacnoradhq 4y ago
This is false.

Falkon1313 4y ago

Isn't it pretty well known that every other version of Windows is a badly-done flop? 98/2000 were great, ME wasn't, XP was great, Vista was awful, 7 was great, 8 was really awful, 10 is excellent, 11 is therefore almost certainly one to skip. I'm kind of surprised so many people are installing Windows 11, given the history (and the fact that it doesn't support common CPUs like the Intel i5). I'll just wait for W12.

conductr 4y ago
Not sure if true, but it’s always felt like the flops were just a new GUI skin on top of the previous good OS. Mostly in weird ways because they end up trying to redesign some things they already got right.
goosedragons 4y ago
Vista was pretty good on decent hardware especially after it's SP1. Most of the troubles came from OEMs putting it on hardware it should not have been on and MS allowing that. It's other source of troubles was changing up the driver model in big ways and companies like Nvidia not being ready in the beginning. I built my first PC after Windows 7 came out. However some peice of hardware in there caused W7 to blue screen after about 5 minutes use every time. Vista though was rock solid and I honestly ended up liking it's desktop more than W7, only thing I missed was window snapping. Windows 11 also supports i5s...It just doesn't support i5s from 6 years ago, nor i7s from then.
LeonenTheDK 4y ago
It does indeed support common CPUs like the Intel i5 (and a bunch of others I forgot existed): https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/mi... But if you're referring to lack of official support for 9th gen and older CPUs, then it is indeed a pain in the butt. Plenty of valid computers losing official support because reasons is a travesty, but at least W10 is still getting updates for a while I guess? FWIW I have a PC with an i7-7700 and no TPM running W11 for the heck of it, and it runs fine, but it wasn't happy about it. This is just the TV PC, so nothing critical; I wouldn't do this on anything even remotely important.

rkagerer 4y ago

Not sure if it works in Windows 11 yet, but Classic Start Menu is a prerequisite of mine on all Windows PC's I use for any length of time.