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I'm not sure that I see the need for the jailbreak anymore. I used to jailbreak all of my devices, but Apple has removed most of the reason for it now. They hav

by a2tech 15y ago

I'm not sure that I see the need for the jailbreak anymore. I used to jailbreak all of my devices, but Apple has removed most of the reason for it now. They have legitimate tethering, its available on multiple carriers, improved notifications, and pretty decent multitasking.

craigbellot 15y ago
To enable "legitimate tethering" on AT&T, I have to give up my grandfathered unlimited data plan, be charged $45 per month and be limited to max 4gb or $10 for every GB I go over. Sounds like the jailbreak will still come in handy.
w33ble 15y ago
One word: unlock. Until the phone is on Tmo, the unlock is mandatory. As far as software, for me, SBSettings is vital. Apple still doesn't have a quick way to access Wifi, brightness, airplane mode and other settings, and until they do, I wouldn't think about running without a jailbreak. I also still prefer Lock Info to Apple's Notification Center.
- cstejerean 15y ago
  You can buy an unlocked phone directly from Apple now. It still won't do 3G on T-Mobile though due to the different frequencies used.
  - w33ble 15y ago
    Do their unlocked phones really work on non-approved carriers? I never really looked in to it, it's pretty cost-prohibitive. Also, that doesn't help people that want to buy used last-gen and save a few hundred bucks, or the people who are now off-contract and are still happy with their phone but looking to move.
    - rweir 15y ago
      > Do their unlocked phones really work on non-approved carriers? yes, obviously. 'unlocked' = 'works on any carrier with which the technology (ie GSM/UMTS, works on the right bands) is compatible'. note that since tmobile almost exclusively uses an unsupported-by-Apple band for 3G (1700MHz), you're getting EDGE at best.
albb0920 15y ago
How about the annoying 20mb download limit in app store?
- kalmi10 15y ago
  http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.crashx.unrestrictor3g http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.crashx.unrestrictor3g
vectorpush 15y ago
I hear this sentiment every single update, and I always have to shake my head. The amount of time I've had to wait for Apple to put in features that are widely available on Cydia (like LockInfo, or Facetime over 3g, or letting me take photos with the volume button, or wireless syncing) makes me worry I'll always be behind on the cutting edge. Then there are all the things they still won't let me do, like wirelessly sshfs into my phone so I can drag and drop mp3s/videos from linux (i.e. completely evading iTunes), or being able to use banned apps like the amazing Grooveshark app, or having to pay extra money for tethering even though my data is capped at 2gb either way. I can't imagine Apple ever adding enough features for me to be satisfied with a vanilla phone. I guess not everybody wants all that stuff, but I do. :)
rdp 15y ago
Actually, this means that there should be an untethered iOS 5 jailbreak for Apple TV in the near future. This is really needed.
ivank 15y ago
for an iPad at least, http://stereopsis.com/flux/ios.html http://stereopsis.com/flux/ios.html is essential
- dvdhsu 15y ago
  Wow. Thank you so much for the link. I remember a few months ago, there was a flux thread. A couple of people were lamenting over the fact that it wasn't available on iOS. I even e-mailed Marco over at Instapaper to see if he could implement the feature. Now that it's available, I'll finally be able to use my iOS devices at night!
dzlobin 15y ago
Honestly the only reason that I still jailbreak is BiteSMS. It lets you reply to an SMS directly in it's overlay so that you don't have to exit out of your current app. http://bitesms.com/ http://bitesms.com/
jlgosse 15y ago
Agree with this 100%. I was really worried about this when first switching from Android to iOS, but after months of using an iPhone & iPad, I don't miss anything. That being said, even if I did want untethered jailbreaking right now, I'd be left in the dark, as I am one of (many) people who have both an iPad 2 and iPhone 4S.
tullidil 15y ago
I've had my 4S since launch. I agree it's overall functionality is more than satisfactory without a jailbreak, but there's a few annoying but not dealbreaking issues that jailbreaking would solve - fast text replies, quick access to wifi and airport settings, etc. I'm not hurting to jailbreak for these reasons, but it is annoying that this functionality has been available to jailbroken phones for a good deal of time.

by a2tech 15y ago

craigbellot 15y ago

To enable "legitimate tethering" on AT&T, I have to give up my grandfathered unlimited data plan, be charged $45 per month and be limited to max 4gb or $10 for every GB I go over. Sounds like the jailbreak will still come in handy.

w33ble 15y ago

One word: unlock. Until the phone is on Tmo, the unlock is mandatory. As far as software, for me, SBSettings is vital. Apple still doesn't have a quick way to access Wifi, brightness, airplane mode and other settings, and until they do, I wouldn't think about running without a jailbreak. I also still prefer Lock Info to Apple's Notification Center.

cstejerean 15y ago
You can buy an unlocked phone directly from Apple now. It still won't do 3G on T-Mobile though due to the different frequencies used.
- w33ble 15y ago
  Do their unlocked phones really work on non-approved carriers? I never really looked in to it, it's pretty cost-prohibitive. Also, that doesn't help people that want to buy used last-gen and save a few hundred bucks, or the people who are now off-contract and are still happy with their phone but looking to move.
  - rweir 15y ago
    > Do their unlocked phones really work on non-approved carriers? yes, obviously. 'unlocked' = 'works on any carrier with which the technology (ie GSM/UMTS, works on the right bands) is compatible'. note that since tmobile almost exclusively uses an unsupported-by-Apple band for 3G (1700MHz), you're getting EDGE at best.

albb0920 15y ago

How about the annoying 20mb download limit in app store?

kalmi10 15y ago
http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.crashx.unrestrictor3g http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.crashx.unrestrictor3g

vectorpush 15y ago

I hear this sentiment every single update, and I always have to shake my head. The amount of time I've had to wait for Apple to put in features that are widely available on Cydia (like LockInfo, or Facetime over 3g, or letting me take photos with the volume button, or wireless syncing) makes me worry I'll always be behind on the cutting edge. Then there are all the things they still won't let me do, like wirelessly sshfs into my phone so I can drag and drop mp3s/videos from linux (i.e. completely evading iTunes), or being able to use banned apps like the amazing Grooveshark app, or having to pay extra money for tethering even though my data is capped at 2gb either way. I can't imagine Apple ever adding enough features for me to be satisfied with a vanilla phone. I guess not everybody wants all that stuff, but I do. :)

rdp 15y ago

Actually, this means that there should be an untethered iOS 5 jailbreak for Apple TV in the near future. This is really needed.

ivank 15y ago

for an iPad at least, http://stereopsis.com/flux/ios.html http://stereopsis.com/flux/ios.html is essential

dvdhsu 15y ago
Wow. Thank you so much for the link. I remember a few months ago, there was a flux thread. A couple of people were lamenting over the fact that it wasn't available on iOS. I even e-mailed Marco over at Instapaper to see if he could implement the feature. Now that it's available, I'll finally be able to use my iOS devices at night!

dzlobin 15y ago

Honestly the only reason that I still jailbreak is BiteSMS. It lets you reply to an SMS directly in it's overlay so that you don't have to exit out of your current app. http://bitesms.com/ http://bitesms.com/

jlgosse 15y ago

Agree with this 100%. I was really worried about this when first switching from Android to iOS, but after months of using an iPhone & iPad, I don't miss anything. That being said, even if I did want untethered jailbreaking right now, I'd be left in the dark, as I am one of (many) people who have both an iPad 2 and iPhone 4S.

tullidil 15y ago

I've had my 4S since launch. I agree it's overall functionality is more than satisfactory without a jailbreak, but there's a few annoying but not dealbreaking issues that jailbreaking would solve - fast text replies, quick access to wifi and airport settings, etc. I'm not hurting to jailbreak for these reasons, but it is annoying that this functionality has been available to jailbroken phones for a good deal of time.