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I am thankful that society is rejecting sociopathic cult leaders like Trump and Musk. I was starting to lose hope. It still is a pity that everything has to be

I am thankful that society is rejecting sociopathic cult leaders like Trump and Musk. I was starting to lose hope. It still is a pity that everything has to be about politics. Tesla paved the way for the electric cars and was a net positive for society. I hope the stockholders see that Musk is more of a liability now, and kick him out.

claytongulick 4y ago
It's really strange how people allow their political ideology to color their thinking. Musk a "sociopathic cult leader?" He gets this label apparently because he believes in the marketplace of ideas. That's now equivalent to sociopathic tendencies? And because a lot of people agree with that freedom of expression (sort of the reason the U.S. was founded, and the thing that a lot of people have fought and died for) he's a cult leader? Roughly half or more of folks in this country tend to agree with him on a lot of things. That's a cult? They are all just dumb or something? From Locke to Sewell, they are brainwashed cultists too? Or is it maybe possible that reasonable people can disagree?
- noncoml 4y ago
  > It's really strange how people allow their political ideology to color their thinking I think that it is you that is trying to make this political. I referred to two specific people, one of which is supposed to be "not left, nor right". So why are you trying to paint it political? If anything I explicitly said in the post you replied that I find it sad that people are all about politics these days. Since you support freedom of ideas I ask you to respect my opinion about Musk, which has nothing to do with his claim of "marketplace of ideas" but a lot to do with all the other opinions he posts online. I would go into detail what are the things that he says that make him appear like a "sociopathic cult leader" to me, if you want. But by your message it sounded like you are sure that I don't like Musk because I don't support free speech. So, not sure it's worth continuing the discussion. I'll just leave this here for reference: https://www.psychmechanics.com/characteristics-of-cult-leaders/ https://www.psychmechanics.com/characteristics-of-cult-leade...
  - claytongulick 4y ago
    You called a former president of the United States and a successful serial entrepreneur sociopathic cult leaders. And yet somehow, you're redirecting to accuse me of making your very clearly biased post political. This is what I mean by how our ideology colors our thinking.
    - noncoml 4y ago
      Socrates is a philosopher. Socrates is a human. Hence all humans are philosophers? Can you explain why do you keep insisting that me calling Musk a sociopathic cult leader has anything to do with politics?

claytongulick 4y ago

It's really strange how people allow their political ideology to color their thinking. Musk a "sociopathic cult leader?" He gets this label apparently because he believes in the marketplace of ideas. That's now equivalent to sociopathic tendencies? And because a lot of people agree with that freedom of expression (sort of the reason the U.S. was founded, and the thing that a lot of people have fought and died for) he's a cult leader? Roughly half or more of folks in this country tend to agree with him on a lot of things. That's a cult? They are all just dumb or something? From Locke to Sewell, they are brainwashed cultists too? Or is it maybe possible that reasonable people can disagree?

noncoml 4y ago
> It's really strange how people allow their political ideology to color their thinking I think that it is you that is trying to make this political. I referred to two specific people, one of which is supposed to be "not left, nor right". So why are you trying to paint it political? If anything I explicitly said in the post you replied that I find it sad that people are all about politics these days. Since you support freedom of ideas I ask you to respect my opinion about Musk, which has nothing to do with his claim of "marketplace of ideas" but a lot to do with all the other opinions he posts online. I would go into detail what are the things that he says that make him appear like a "sociopathic cult leader" to me, if you want. But by your message it sounded like you are sure that I don't like Musk because I don't support free speech. So, not sure it's worth continuing the discussion. I'll just leave this here for reference: https://www.psychmechanics.com/characteristics-of-cult-leaders/ https://www.psychmechanics.com/characteristics-of-cult-leade...
- claytongulick 4y ago
  You called a former president of the United States and a successful serial entrepreneur sociopathic cult leaders. And yet somehow, you're redirecting to accuse me of making your very clearly biased post political. This is what I mean by how our ideology colors our thinking.
  - noncoml 4y ago
    Socrates is a philosopher. Socrates is a human. Hence all humans are philosophers? Can you explain why do you keep insisting that me calling Musk a sociopathic cult leader has anything to do with politics?