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There's also the problem with chargers. No one else has such an extensive and easy to use charging network.

by poxrud 4y ago

cogman10 4y ago
The CCS charging network is starting to ramp up and with the last congressional budget I expect it to explode a bit in the upcoming years. $5 billion dollars was earmarked for EV charging. The latest CCS charging standard supports the "plug and charge" model like tesla does. It'll take time, but I expect at the end of 5 years most stations will have it.
- poxrud 4y ago
  Perhaps things are better in the US but here in Ontario there are no real alternatives.
- brianwawok 4y ago
  CCS chargers are unreliable. 75% plus can be broken at any one time. Sometimes you get to a station and find out every single charge is busted. Hope you have charge to go to another! Tesla chargers.. never heard of a station being dead. If it was, the in-app nav would reroute you. The difference is Tesla cares about charge quality. CCS network made to settle Diselgate? No one really cares or puts in the effort to keep them all 100% up.
super256 4y ago
Is the US Tesla charging network proprietary and can only be used by tesla cars?
- Someone 4y ago
  It was/is. Tesla recently announced they are opening it up (https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-standard https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-s...)
- poxrud 4y ago
  They opened it up to some countries in Europe but it's still not accessible in North America. https://www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging https://www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging
deng 4y ago
> No one else has such an extensive and easy to use charging network. Maybe in the US? In Europe, that's not even remotely true. Lots of choice among providers, Tesla is one of many. Germany has ~12k stations, about 900 are Tesla's. EDIT: I was way off, there are about 900 Tesla charging stations in Europe! In Germany, it's about 150. Of course, this is all debatable because many of these 12k stations have only one connector and often have limited kW, whereas Tesla's are usually equipped with several superchargers, but still, it's a small player in Germany's charging network.

There's also the problem with chargers. No one else has such an extensive and easy to use charging network.

by poxrud 4y ago

There's also the problem with chargers. No one else has such an extensive and easy to use charging network.

The CCS charging network is starting to ramp up and with the last congressional budget I expect it to explode a bit in the upcoming years. $5 billion dollars was earmarked for EV charging. The latest CCS charging standard supports the "plug and charge" model like tesla does. It'll take time, but I expect at the end of 5 years most stations will have it.

poxrud 4y ago
Perhaps things are better in the US but here in Ontario there are no real alternatives.
brianwawok 4y ago
CCS chargers are unreliable. 75% plus can be broken at any one time. Sometimes you get to a station and find out every single charge is busted. Hope you have charge to go to another! Tesla chargers.. never heard of a station being dead. If it was, the in-app nav would reroute you. The difference is Tesla cares about charge quality. CCS network made to settle Diselgate? No one really cares or puts in the effort to keep them all 100% up.

super256 4y ago

Is the US Tesla charging network proprietary and can only be used by tesla cars?

Someone 4y ago
It was/is. Tesla recently announced they are opening it up (https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-standard https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-s...)
poxrud 4y ago
They opened it up to some countries in Europe but it's still not accessible in North America. https://www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging https://www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging

deng 4y ago

> No one else has such an extensive and easy to use charging network. Maybe in the US? In Europe, that's not even remotely true. Lots of choice among providers, Tesla is one of many. Germany has ~12k stations, about 900 are Tesla's. EDIT: I was way off, there are about 900 Tesla charging stations in Europe! In Germany, it's about 150. Of course, this is all debatable because many of these 12k stations have only one connector and often have limited kW, whereas Tesla's are usually equipped with several superchargers, but still, it's a small player in Germany's charging network.