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Do people actually care that an incredibly small amount of people that can afford private jets are flying around? How many less dogs would we need on earth to o
by hbn 4y ago
Do people actually care that an incredibly small amount of people that can afford private jets are flying around? How many less dogs would we need on earth to offset the carbon footprint of private jets? What does the pollution look like as a percentage of smog China pumps into the air, or cities in India where they're burning all their trash?
Billionaires flying in planes is such an infinitesimally small issue in the grand scope of pollution that it doesn't even feel worth the brain power to think about. It's like both of your legs were blown off and you're haemorrhaging blood but being concerned about the paper cut on your finger.
- voz_ 4y agoThe point is that these people shouldn't even exist, every billionaire is a policy failure - there is no ethical route to a billion dollars. So the egregious and outlandish lifestyle of waste and excess while simultaneously reminding us to recycle our cans and unplug idle devices is blatantly insulting.
- m-alsuwaidi 4y agoAre millionaires okay? What’s the cutoff?
- Fatnino 4y agoHaving a million dollars puts you in lower to mid middle class. There does exist some cutoff and it can be haggled over where exactly it is but it is certainly below a billion.
- cipheredStones 4y agoHaving a million dollars puts you in the top 12% of household net worth in the US - while "middle class" is a notoriously loose term in the US, that's upper middle class at least. Median household net worth is around $120k.
- Fatnino 4y agoOk, that's for US. What are the numbers for California? That's my reference since I'm here.
- rexpop 4y agoThere's a big difference between a million and a billion. Here's a handy reference for getting the hang of it. https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/ https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/
- frumper 4y agoThere isn't a real difference between 999 million and a billion though.
- kelseyfrog 4y agoWhen does a pile of sand become a heap[1]? These questions are ultimately not useful and confuse rather than clarify. 1. Sorites paradox
- oneoff786 4y agoA billion sounds fine
- cogman10 4y agoThese incredibly small amounts of people are the people running companies that pump the smog in china or india. Their personal disregard for their impact on the climate is reflected in the way they run their companies. Beyond that, it does speak to a failure in regulations. The fact that that much CO2 can be emitted without a thought of how it will be reclaimed IS the problem with global warming. The cost of emitting CO2 apparently isn't high enough.
- hbn 4y agoWe're just talking about the private jets, not everything the people flying in them do.
- cogman10 4y agoYou asked if people care, the answer is yes and I gave you the why I care. You also brought up pets and burning trash in India so I assume the conversation wasn't "just talking about private jets".
- AnimalMuppet 4y agoHow about instead, they quit flying in private jets all over the place, so that I can keep my dog?
- oneoff786 4y agoSearching around I found aviation accounting for 2.5% of CO2 emissions and private jets accounting for 4% of it. Meaning they comprise 0.1% of global emissions. Seems non trivial when you consider how few people this includes. At the very least it’s hardly infinitesimally small.
- rqtwteye 4y agoThey should have the same restrictions as everybody else has. They can buy their into using tons of waters in drought areas, park wherever they want, blow insane amounts of fuel in their superyachts and much more. It's a small group but they should limit themselves in the same way as the regular guy has to.
- bjourne 4y agoThe answer is yes since @ElonJet has half a million followers. The amount of violence committed by serial killers is minuscule compared to the total amount of violence in the world, yet people care a lot about serial killers. And yes, flying private jets is comparable to violence.
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- midoridensha 4y agoYou bring up a good point about dogs. The carbon footprint of pet dogs these days is incredible, all so people can virtue signal while they walk around outside picking up fresh poop from the animal they keep in a stroller.