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Bad news then. You most assuredly rely on natural gas from Texas traveling through a long underground pipeline to heat your homes and businesses. Relying on sol

Bad news then. You most assuredly rely on natural gas from Texas traveling through a long underground pipeline to heat your homes and businesses. Relying on solar electricity from Texas or Arizona traveling through a long wire isn't going to change the status quo much.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> most assuredly rely on natural gas from Texas traveling through a long underground pipeline to heat your homes and businesses Last I checked, we mine our own coal, pump our own oil and put up our own wind farms [1]. Minnesota, for what it’s worth, runs on renewables, coal and nukes [2]. The fifth of natural gas it does use comes from Canada, the Dakotas and Iowa. These cold-state energy security concerns are a big part of the political puzzle that gets missed in the national discourse. [1] https://www.wsgs.wyo.gov/products/wsgs-2012-electricalgeneration-summary.pdf https://www.wsgs.wyo.gov/products/wsgs-2012-electricalgenera... [2] https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=MN https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=MN
- megaman821 4y ago
  In northern states almost all residential energy use is heating. The amount of electricity used is minimal, therefore even modest amounts of electricity generation can meet need. Wyoming is the only northern state that has natural gas in notable amounts, all other states import a lot of their energy (especially heating) needs. If most states stopped importing energy they would have to go back to wood and coal-fired stoves. That would be a huge quality of life reduction in terms of convenience and home air quality.
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > almost all residential energy use is heating. The amount of electricity used is minimal Resistive heating. > most states stopped importing energy they would have to go back to wood and coal-fired stoves Most states don’t have high-baseload, low-latency life-or-death energy requirements. Those that do have the options I outlined above.
    - toomuchtodo 4y ago
      Heat pumps should be paired with rooftop solar and batteries whenever possible for resiliency. I admit the use of natural gas will decline in my lifetime, but probably won’t be fully deprecated.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> most assuredly rely on natural gas from Texas traveling through a long underground pipeline to heat your homes and businesses Last I checked, we mine our own coal, pump our own oil and put up our own wind farms [1]. Minnesota, for what it’s worth, runs on renewables, coal and nukes [2]. The fifth of natural gas it does use comes from Canada, the Dakotas and Iowa. These cold-state energy security concerns are a big part of the political puzzle that gets missed in the national discourse. [1] https://www.wsgs.wyo.gov/products/wsgs-2012-electricalgeneration-summary.pdf https://www.wsgs.wyo.gov/products/wsgs-2012-electricalgenera... [2] https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=MN https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=MN

megaman821 4y ago
In northern states almost all residential energy use is heating. The amount of electricity used is minimal, therefore even modest amounts of electricity generation can meet need. Wyoming is the only northern state that has natural gas in notable amounts, all other states import a lot of their energy (especially heating) needs. If most states stopped importing energy they would have to go back to wood and coal-fired stoves. That would be a huge quality of life reduction in terms of convenience and home air quality.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > almost all residential energy use is heating. The amount of electricity used is minimal Resistive heating. > most states stopped importing energy they would have to go back to wood and coal-fired stoves Most states don’t have high-baseload, low-latency life-or-death energy requirements. Those that do have the options I outlined above.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    Heat pumps should be paired with rooftop solar and batteries whenever possible for resiliency. I admit the use of natural gas will decline in my lifetime, but probably won’t be fully deprecated.