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Tangentially related to this article, but if you're ever in Sweden, I recommend checking out the Vasa Museum [1]. It's a 1600's ship that was pulled off the se

by taude 4y ago

Tangentially related to this article, but if you're ever in Sweden, I recommend checking out the Vasa Museum [1]. It's a 1600's ship that was pulled off the sea floor. [1] https://www.vasamuseet.se/en https://www.vasamuseet.se/en

barbarbar 4y ago
I think it is a very good recommendation. But it is worth adding that Sweden is a big country. Edit: spelling
- LarryMullins 4y ago
  Eh, it's half the size of British Columbia. If you're visiting for more than a few days, it seems reasonable to travel across the country to see something interesting.
  - baxtr 4y ago
    The size of the Equator is zero. But getting around the earth requires a lot of time!
    - LarryMullins 4y ago
      Point taken, but Malmo to Karesuando is only a three day drive (assuming a modest pace, one driver, and good weather.)
      - qwytw 4y ago
        > but Malmo to Karesuando is only a three day drive Which is a lot in Europe (e.g. driving from Warsaw to Barcelona would take about the same)
      - Ma8ee 4y ago
        And that is reasonable if you think a country should be seen through car windows. If I have, say, a week to visit a country, I will definitely not use three of those days driving.
  - dendrite9 4y ago
    That makes it seem big, I don't think people realize just how far out places like Dease Lake, Dawson Creek and Terrace are.
    - tlavoie 4y ago
      And then going beyond, for days, outside of BC. My son and his girlfriend went to work for a few months in Eagle Plains, YT. I had thought of northern BC as a long ways away, but then plotted out their route that just kept going, and going...
- BurningFrog 4y ago
  It's just about the size of California. But almost every international traveller will arrive in Stockholm, so it's not crazy to assume they'll be within range of Vasa.
hef19898 4y ago
Definitly have to go there one day. Also a huge, and well worth it, time sink is Oslo's museum island.
deagle50 4y ago
I saw it last August, it's pretty amazing. It was the most heavily armed ship in the world when it set sail, sadly it was so imbalanced it sunk within an hour.
belfalas 4y ago
Vasa is almost a must-see recommendation for folks working in an engineering/project background. It was such a spectacular failure and for reasons that will likely feel all too familiar for anyone working in enterprise.
- daveslash 4y ago
  Wait, is Vasa the Ship or the Museum? Was the ship or the museum the failure? Edit: Thank you all!
  - belfalas 4y ago
    The Vasa Museum is all about the ship named Vasa - the ship was a fantastical failure, the museum is doing quite well as far as I know. :) (The museum spends a lot of time documenting "how could this have gone so wrong?")
  - unixhero 4y ago
    The ship was a gigantic failure due to serious design flaws. The project to build it was a gigantic failure and caused the Wasa's eventual demise.
  - marginalia_nu 4y ago
    The ship sank during its maiden voyage.
    - egberts1 4y ago
      right in the harbor!
- WalterBright 4y ago
  One of the Titanic-era trans-atlantic luxury ships added so much marble to the first class deck and cabins that the ship was in danger of capsizing. Don't recall what happened to it.
grammers 4y ago
Thanks, going to Sweden next summer and this sounds amazing!
- metamet 4y ago
  Vasa was awesome. I also recommend some of the ferry tours out of Stockholm. I spent three weeks in Stockholm and built a four day trip to Odda (Norway) as well, where I flew from Stockholm to Bergen and took a bus/ferry to Odda. Awesome chance to get submerged in the fjords, and the Trolltunga[1] is only a few miles north of Odda. [1] https://www.visitnorway.com/places-to-go/fjord-norway/the-hardangerfjord-region/listings-hardanger-fjord/trolltunga/8625/ https://www.visitnorway.com/places-to-go/fjord-norway/the-ha...
matsemann 4y ago
Think it's one of my favorite museums ever. I thought I was "just quickly gonna watch some old boat". Ended up staying there for hours, so much interesting. I recommend tagging along on the (free) guides. Gives much background and points out so many interesting details on the ship.
Findecanor 4y ago
Trivia: The Vasa served as role-model for "The Flying Dutchman" in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies — also a ship that sunk and was risen again. The ships in the movies were inspired by real-world ships, and the team was helped by an expert on tall ships. When given the plans for one ship, the expert exclaimed: "This design does not look seaworthy. Is it really based on a real ship?". "Yes, it is called the Vasa".
whalesalad 4y ago
When I was visiting Sweden a friend of mine took me here and it was indeed a super awesome and surreal experience.
asix66 4y ago
And the Viking Ship Museum in Roskilde, Denmark [1] [1] https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/ https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/

by taude 4y ago

barbarbar 4y ago

I think it is a very good recommendation. But it is worth adding that Sweden is a big country. Edit: spelling

LarryMullins 4y ago
Eh, it's half the size of British Columbia. If you're visiting for more than a few days, it seems reasonable to travel across the country to see something interesting.
- baxtr 4y ago
  The size of the Equator is zero. But getting around the earth requires a lot of time!
  - LarryMullins 4y ago
    Point taken, but Malmo to Karesuando is only a three day drive (assuming a modest pace, one driver, and good weather.)
    - qwytw 4y ago
      > but Malmo to Karesuando is only a three day drive Which is a lot in Europe (e.g. driving from Warsaw to Barcelona would take about the same)
    - Ma8ee 4y ago
      And that is reasonable if you think a country should be seen through car windows. If I have, say, a week to visit a country, I will definitely not use three of those days driving.
- dendrite9 4y ago
  That makes it seem big, I don't think people realize just how far out places like Dease Lake, Dawson Creek and Terrace are.
  - tlavoie 4y ago
    And then going beyond, for days, outside of BC. My son and his girlfriend went to work for a few months in Eagle Plains, YT. I had thought of northern BC as a long ways away, but then plotted out their route that just kept going, and going...
BurningFrog 4y ago
It's just about the size of California. But almost every international traveller will arrive in Stockholm, so it's not crazy to assume they'll be within range of Vasa.

hef19898 4y ago

Definitly have to go there one day. Also a huge, and well worth it, time sink is Oslo's museum island.

deagle50 4y ago

I saw it last August, it's pretty amazing. It was the most heavily armed ship in the world when it set sail, sadly it was so imbalanced it sunk within an hour.

belfalas 4y ago

Vasa is almost a must-see recommendation for folks working in an engineering/project background. It was such a spectacular failure and for reasons that will likely feel all too familiar for anyone working in enterprise.

daveslash 4y ago
Wait, is Vasa the Ship or the Museum? Was the ship or the museum the failure? Edit: Thank you all!
- belfalas 4y ago
  The Vasa Museum is all about the ship named Vasa - the ship was a fantastical failure, the museum is doing quite well as far as I know. :) (The museum spends a lot of time documenting "how could this have gone so wrong?")
- unixhero 4y ago
  The ship was a gigantic failure due to serious design flaws. The project to build it was a gigantic failure and caused the Wasa's eventual demise.
- marginalia_nu 4y ago
  The ship sank during its maiden voyage.
  - egberts1 4y ago
    right in the harbor!
WalterBright 4y ago
One of the Titanic-era trans-atlantic luxury ships added so much marble to the first class deck and cabins that the ship was in danger of capsizing. Don't recall what happened to it.

grammers 4y ago

Thanks, going to Sweden next summer and this sounds amazing!

metamet 4y ago
Vasa was awesome. I also recommend some of the ferry tours out of Stockholm. I spent three weeks in Stockholm and built a four day trip to Odda (Norway) as well, where I flew from Stockholm to Bergen and took a bus/ferry to Odda. Awesome chance to get submerged in the fjords, and the Trolltunga[1] is only a few miles north of Odda. [1] https://www.visitnorway.com/places-to-go/fjord-norway/the-hardangerfjord-region/listings-hardanger-fjord/trolltunga/8625/ https://www.visitnorway.com/places-to-go/fjord-norway/the-ha...

matsemann 4y ago

Think it's one of my favorite museums ever. I thought I was "just quickly gonna watch some old boat". Ended up staying there for hours, so much interesting. I recommend tagging along on the (free) guides. Gives much background and points out so many interesting details on the ship.

Findecanor 4y ago

Trivia: The Vasa served as role-model for "The Flying Dutchman" in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies — also a ship that sunk and was risen again. The ships in the movies were inspired by real-world ships, and the team was helped by an expert on tall ships. When given the plans for one ship, the expert exclaimed: "This design does not look seaworthy. Is it really based on a real ship?". "Yes, it is called the Vasa".

whalesalad 4y ago

When I was visiting Sweden a friend of mine took me here and it was indeed a super awesome and surreal experience.

asix66 4y ago

And the Viking Ship Museum in Roskilde, Denmark [1] [1] https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/ https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/