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I tried to reply but hn stopped me because 3 comments in 15min is too much so had to wait hours. Consider the term "evangelical authoritarian" and the conclusi

by _8j50 4y ago

I tried to reply but hn stopped me because 3 comments in 15min is too much so had to wait hours. Consider the term "evangelical authoritarian" and the conclusion you cane up with about fear and paranoia in their dreams. The propaganda interpretation is a reductive "basically white americans who support trump" but in reality if you took time to understand what that phrase means perhaps you will see how your conclusion or the phrase itself make no sense at all. My intention was to nudge to the direction of critically examining your assumptions not to say you had bad intentions or that I was free from incorrect assumptions myself.

082349872349872 4y ago
No worries, unfortunately I've passed the time limit when I can edit the original post to clarify. [e for e in evangelicals where authoritarian(e)] Assuming ~100m US evangelicals, only ~55m are conservative, and presumably only some fraction of those are authoritarian, in the sense that they could willingly support the kind of authoritarianism under which dreams change. Trump support was, at 74m, substantially higher than the number of people I had been intending to discuss. (Also feel free to directly point out my errors next time; I married into a culture which is far more direct than the anglophone and may have gone native in areas) Cheers!
watwut 4y ago
Why would the term "evangelical authoritarian" be nonsensical? There are some very hierarchical evangelical subcultures, that frown on criticizing higher ups have very strict rules and do nurture "us vs them" way of looking at the world. The "evangelical authoritarian" does describe them well. And I am saying that as someone who grew in evangelical church. Mine was significantly less authoritarian then it gets to be, but I still read enough texts produced by authoritarian ones and had enough contact to know it is not made up construct.

by _8j50 4y ago

082349872349872 4y ago

No worries, unfortunately I've passed the time limit when I can edit the original post to clarify. [e for e in evangelicals where authoritarian(e)] Assuming ~100m US evangelicals, only ~55m are conservative, and presumably only some fraction of those are authoritarian, in the sense that they could willingly support the kind of authoritarianism under which dreams change. Trump support was, at 74m, substantially higher than the number of people I had been intending to discuss. (Also feel free to directly point out my errors next time; I married into a culture which is far more direct than the anglophone and may have gone native in areas) Cheers!

watwut 4y ago

Why would the term "evangelical authoritarian" be nonsensical? There are some very hierarchical evangelical subcultures, that frown on criticizing higher ups have very strict rules and do nurture "us vs them" way of looking at the world. The "evangelical authoritarian" does describe them well. And I am saying that as someone who grew in evangelical church. Mine was significantly less authoritarian then it gets to be, but I still read enough texts produced by authoritarian ones and had enough contact to know it is not made up construct.