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No it's not. Crocodile tears about how unfair it is for her to make so little instead of paying her more is virtue signaling. Dems have being in power in CA for

by qaq 4y ago

No it's not. Crocodile tears about how unfair it is for her to make so little instead of paying her more is virtue signaling. Dems have being in power in CA forever voting for them is not going to change maids wage.

sph 4y ago
The problem is thinking blue or red are the answer to this problem. Their current iteration is the leading reason why we are in this situation now.
- qaq 4y ago
  Nope they are a reflection of their voters e.g. "us". As long as majority regardless of side continues to vote for amorphous virtue signalling unprincipled politicians the things will stay as they are.
  - Olreich 4y ago
    Fun part of that is that the political systems are flawed as well and actively resist hiring new politicians who are more principled. In the US, it’s almost impossible to win without endorsement from Dem or Rep parties. Anywhere that does First Past the Post will devolve to two party rule at scale. Many countries have authoritarian regimes, so elections don’t matter. Even just drawing political lines is fraught and liable to bias against the will of the people based on existing precedent. Money in politics provides advantages to the rich and corporate interests. Politicians are motivated to keep constituents happy, but only so far. The political systems generally provide a significant buffer for politicians to act on behalf of themselves or their donors and not get replaced.
  - miguelazo 4y ago
    This assumes an informed electorate that has real choices. It is most certainly not, with corruption and a totally dysfunctional profit-driven media ecosystem virtually guaranteeing it remains that way.
danaris 4y ago
So what's your alternative proposal? I 100% agree that paying the maid more is the right answer in this specific case, but saying that the Democrats are part of the problem, even if it's true, fails to account for the facts that a) the Republicans are much more of the problem, and b) there are no other viable parties to vote for due to our voting system. "Voting for the Democrats" is a necessary, but insufficient, part of the solution. Another part is "voting for more progressive Democrats in primary elections". Again, necessary but insufficient. I don't have the whole answer...but I know that bitching about not being able to change anything...doesn't change anything. And, in fact, makes it much less likely that positive change happens, because it either makes people feel helpless, or directs them to utterly impotent methods. Which then fail, and leave them (once again) feeling helpless.

by qaq 4y ago

sph 4y ago

The problem is thinking blue or red are the answer to this problem. Their current iteration is the leading reason why we are in this situation now.

qaq 4y ago
Nope they are a reflection of their voters e.g. "us". As long as majority regardless of side continues to vote for amorphous virtue signalling unprincipled politicians the things will stay as they are.
- Olreich 4y ago
  Fun part of that is that the political systems are flawed as well and actively resist hiring new politicians who are more principled. In the US, it’s almost impossible to win without endorsement from Dem or Rep parties. Anywhere that does First Past the Post will devolve to two party rule at scale. Many countries have authoritarian regimes, so elections don’t matter. Even just drawing political lines is fraught and liable to bias against the will of the people based on existing precedent. Money in politics provides advantages to the rich and corporate interests. Politicians are motivated to keep constituents happy, but only so far. The political systems generally provide a significant buffer for politicians to act on behalf of themselves or their donors and not get replaced.
- miguelazo 4y ago
  This assumes an informed electorate that has real choices. It is most certainly not, with corruption and a totally dysfunctional profit-driven media ecosystem virtually guaranteeing it remains that way.

danaris 4y ago

So what's your alternative proposal? I 100% agree that paying the maid more is the right answer in this specific case, but saying that the Democrats are part of the problem, even if it's true, fails to account for the facts that a) the Republicans are much more of the problem, and b) there are no other viable parties to vote for due to our voting system. "Voting for the Democrats" is a necessary, but insufficient, part of the solution. Another part is "voting for more progressive Democrats in primary elections". Again, necessary but insufficient. I don't have the whole answer...but I know that bitching about not being able to change anything...doesn't change anything. And, in fact, makes it much less likely that positive change happens, because it either makes people feel helpless, or directs them to utterly impotent methods. Which then fail, and leave them (once again) feeling helpless.