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Ah. Raising the bar now? Clever, clever. Personally, I’d rather hire an ex-con who said they were desperate than someone who did it “accidentally” (I.e. a klep

Ah. Raising the bar now? Clever, clever. Personally, I’d rather hire an ex-con who said they were desperate than someone who did it “accidentally” (I.e. a kleptomaniac whose only treatment was a prison cell. Yes, that’s an actual mental illness.) but most people speed on purpose, jay walk on purpose, run stop signs… on purpose. These crimes actually put people’s lives at risk and steals literal time from people’s lives! That’s surely worse than stealing lumps of metal, glass and plastic that can be easily repurchased at nearby stores throughout the world? Anyway, there is only one crime that usually cares whether you do it on purpose or not. That’s murder. Virtually ever other crime doesn’t care whether it is on purpose or by accident. It’s not like when you pull someone’s criminal background, it says: jaywalked by accident. You either do the crime, or not. Most people on this planet perform crimes habitually and on purpose (sometimes without even the knowledge that they did a crime!). It doesn’t matter. Most people are criminals…

ckrapu 4y ago
I think this comment is unusually revealing about your worldview and the community you grew up in. It certainly does not reflect my experience.
- withinboredom 4y ago
  I’m fairly certain it does not. I dated a parole officer in my 20’s where I heard all kinds of things about ex-cons that I never knew about. They have a hard life because of people like you when all they (usually) want to do is get back to a normal life after fucking things up. One thing I find really interesting about the country I’m currently living in is that nothing you get arrested for will show up on a background check unless it is specifically related to the job you’re applying for. Thus theft will show up for retail, but not for writing software or secretarial jobs. I wish the US did something like that so people could have a fresh start in a new career.
josephcsible 4y ago
> but most people speed on purpose, jay walk on purpose, run stop signs… on purpose. These crimes actually put people’s lives at risk and steals literal time from people’s lives! That’s surely worse than stealing lumps of metal, glass and plastic that can be easily repurchased at nearby stores throughout the world? You'd rather have someone steal your phone than jaywalk in front of you and force you to slow down?
- withinboredom 4y ago
  Replacing my phone with a police report is basically free and minimal hassle. Restoring from a backup is painless. But putting the life of myself, my passengers, and the idiot walking in front of my moving vehicle at risk?? Do people actually value a replaceable object more than lives that can never be replaced?? Is that a thing?
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    > Replacing my phone with a police report is basically free Free to you, maybe. But someone has to pay for it. > Do people actually value a replaceable object more than lives that can never be replaced?? No. This is why we all agree that murder and manslaughter are worse crimes than phone theft. But jaywalking is not murder or manslaughter.
    - withinboredom 4y ago
      It’s the equivalent of pointing a loaded gun at someone. There’s a threat that it’s going to be a bad day for everyone.
      - josephcsible 4y ago
        > It’s the equivalent of pointing a loaded gun at someone. To be clear, does "it" mean "jaywalking" there?
        withinboredom 4y ago
        Yes.

ckrapu 4y ago

I think this comment is unusually revealing about your worldview and the community you grew up in. It certainly does not reflect my experience.

withinboredom 4y ago
I’m fairly certain it does not. I dated a parole officer in my 20’s where I heard all kinds of things about ex-cons that I never knew about. They have a hard life because of people like you when all they (usually) want to do is get back to a normal life after fucking things up. One thing I find really interesting about the country I’m currently living in is that nothing you get arrested for will show up on a background check unless it is specifically related to the job you’re applying for. Thus theft will show up for retail, but not for writing software or secretarial jobs. I wish the US did something like that so people could have a fresh start in a new career.

josephcsible 4y ago

> but most people speed on purpose, jay walk on purpose, run stop signs… on purpose. These crimes actually put people’s lives at risk and steals literal time from people’s lives! That’s surely worse than stealing lumps of metal, glass and plastic that can be easily repurchased at nearby stores throughout the world? You'd rather have someone steal your phone than jaywalk in front of you and force you to slow down?

withinboredom 4y ago
Replacing my phone with a police report is basically free and minimal hassle. Restoring from a backup is painless. But putting the life of myself, my passengers, and the idiot walking in front of my moving vehicle at risk?? Do people actually value a replaceable object more than lives that can never be replaced?? Is that a thing?
- josephcsible 4y ago
  > Replacing my phone with a police report is basically free Free to you, maybe. But someone has to pay for it. > Do people actually value a replaceable object more than lives that can never be replaced?? No. This is why we all agree that murder and manslaughter are worse crimes than phone theft. But jaywalking is not murder or manslaughter.
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    It’s the equivalent of pointing a loaded gun at someone. There’s a threat that it’s going to be a bad day for everyone.
    - josephcsible 4y ago
      > It’s the equivalent of pointing a loaded gun at someone. To be clear, does "it" mean "jaywalking" there?
      - withinboredom 4y ago
        Yes.