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I'm so glad he came forward. Maybe now some of the hyperbole can stop. I've been reading stories of the following 2 types: 1. Blogs offering commentary on anot

I'm so glad he came forward. Maybe now some of the hyperbole can stop. I've been reading stories of the following 2 types: 1. Blogs offering commentary on another story about GoDaddy's role in this and pretty much saying "GoDaddy wrote the bill and gave themselves a bunch of perks". 2. The actual sources of those original blogs. It's funny how the sources say no such thing and actually corroborate this GoDaddy employee's story. If you just read the original sources you'll see that he's right in saying that GoDaddy didn't write the bill and really did just ask to redefine a few points. It's also totally true that all registrars get the exemption. I've stopped commenting on these stories because the second someone introduces a little rationality into the discussion the downvotes and gang-up start flying. I'm no GoDaddy apologist. I think they're assholes for coming out in support of SOPA like everyone else. But why are we focusing so much on them? These stories aren't true. They simply mention GoDaddy and take on a life of their own. Ever since GoDaddy got brought up we've totally gotten distracted. Badly. I don't know why GoDaddy came out in support of SOPA. I'd guess it was so they could hedge their bets in case it passed. It's still wrong but I'm not about to go all conspiracy-theory and buy into any theory along the lines that imply GoDaddy is some sort of oppressive evil company for some mysterious reason. Come on guys, let's be reasonable here. What the guy says is true. I've been a long time GoDaddy hater but even I can't get on board with a lot of this misinformation floating around. Sorry if it's not the popular opinion but it's the truth.

zabraxias 15y ago
We can't say that everyone is posting misinformation about GoDaddy since the best source on their stance is their initial post on the pro-SOPA stance itself. A commenter on TC also linked to this http://t.co/HwNa8MEY http://t.co/HwNa8MEY post by VP Nima Kelly equating SOPA opposition to denying legal protection to "the established rights of fellow Americans" while ignoring the constitution and due process. The company certainly has other smears that have been bundled in the bashing but don't equate it to unfair treatment. DMCA is already unfair legislation but the idea that we should let the copyright lobby police the Internet is fundamentally absurd.
wnight 15y ago
> I've stopped commenting on these stories Really? Not very well. > If you just read the original sources you'll see that he's right in saying that GoDaddy didn't write the bill and really did just ask to redefine a few points. It's also totally true that all registrars get the exemption. Oh, no harm done then. They only refined it, they didn't create it from scratch. > I'm no GoDaddy apologist. I think they're assholes for coming out in support of SOPA like everyone else. But why are we focusing so much on them? There's more than one other person on HN, and people can do more than one thing at once. "We" are focusing on a bunch of things. > These stories aren't true. They simply mention GoDaddy and take on a life of their own. Ever since GoDaddy got brought up we've totally gotten distracted. Not all of those stories are true, you mean. Because they did support SOPA. And they did make some refinements to SOPA. Maybe their CEO didn't practice satanic rituals before killing the elephant but the verified portions of the story are still damning enough. > It's still wrong but I'm not about to go all conspiracy-theory and buy into any theory along the lines that imply GoDaddy is some sort of oppressive evil company for some mysterious reason. Of course not. They're an oppressive evil company because it's profitable.
- billpatrianakos 15y ago
  Granted, I have commented on a lot of these stories but there are so many of them filling up every page of HN lately that if you look at the bigger picture I really have stopped because they all pretty much repeat each other. It's a big echo chamber. Now, I'm not saying there's "no harm done" because they only redefined the terms. What I'm saying is that it seems like we're focusing so narrowly on one SOPA related story and missing the larger picture. Hasn't the GoDaddy story played itself out? There are other angles than GoDaddy and I'd be surprised if anyone is learning anything new or benefitting at all from these new ones. After the first 3 days of almost all GoDaddy/SOPA stories around here I think we've said all there is to say about it. At this point its gone from constructive discussion to just a lot of repitition and whining. And yeah, I did mean not all the stories are true. Why do people have to nitpick? You obviously knew what I meant and I'm sure others are smart enough to get it too. The stories I was referring to we're the ones implying that GoDaddy wrote SOPA and that they gave themselves an exemption from it as if they're the only ones getting that exemption. My original comment was a perfectly valid and reasonable point. If you start cherry picking tiny little details you don't agree with or that aren't perfectly worded then you're missing the whole point. Let me state the point very concisely and maybe you'll find you actually agree with me: The GoDaddy stories have become repetitive and unproductive. The stories have been polluted with misinformation and false assumptions. We've said all there is to say and this is distracting us from stopping this bill from passing. Boycotting them is a great way to protest but let's talk about some other things we can do like we had been doing before the GoDaddy story broke. This whole thing reminds me of how politicians use news cycles to their advantage. Sometimes you can't get around bad press so you pick out one aspect of a story to get the public all riled up this distracting them from the real story. What is the real story? I have no idea and I'm sure I couldn't find out on HN as it stands now because we're caught up in an infinite loop of the "GoDaddy wrote SOPA and gave itself exemptions" story.

zabraxias 15y ago

We can't say that everyone is posting misinformation about GoDaddy since the best source on their stance is their initial post on the pro-SOPA stance itself. A commenter on TC also linked to this http://t.co/HwNa8MEY http://t.co/HwNa8MEY post by VP Nima Kelly equating SOPA opposition to denying legal protection to "the established rights of fellow Americans" while ignoring the constitution and due process. The company certainly has other smears that have been bundled in the bashing but don't equate it to unfair treatment. DMCA is already unfair legislation but the idea that we should let the copyright lobby police the Internet is fundamentally absurd.

wnight 15y ago

> I've stopped commenting on these stories Really? Not very well. > If you just read the original sources you'll see that he's right in saying that GoDaddy didn't write the bill and really did just ask to redefine a few points. It's also totally true that all registrars get the exemption. Oh, no harm done then. They only refined it, they didn't create it from scratch. > I'm no GoDaddy apologist. I think they're assholes for coming out in support of SOPA like everyone else. But why are we focusing so much on them? There's more than one other person on HN, and people can do more than one thing at once. "We" are focusing on a bunch of things. > These stories aren't true. They simply mention GoDaddy and take on a life of their own. Ever since GoDaddy got brought up we've totally gotten distracted. Not all of those stories are true, you mean. Because they did support SOPA. And they did make some refinements to SOPA. Maybe their CEO didn't practice satanic rituals before killing the elephant but the verified portions of the story are still damning enough. > It's still wrong but I'm not about to go all conspiracy-theory and buy into any theory along the lines that imply GoDaddy is some sort of oppressive evil company for some mysterious reason. Of course not. They're an oppressive evil company because it's profitable.

billpatrianakos 15y ago
Granted, I have commented on a lot of these stories but there are so many of them filling up every page of HN lately that if you look at the bigger picture I really have stopped because they all pretty much repeat each other. It's a big echo chamber. Now, I'm not saying there's "no harm done" because they only redefined the terms. What I'm saying is that it seems like we're focusing so narrowly on one SOPA related story and missing the larger picture. Hasn't the GoDaddy story played itself out? There are other angles than GoDaddy and I'd be surprised if anyone is learning anything new or benefitting at all from these new ones. After the first 3 days of almost all GoDaddy/SOPA stories around here I think we've said all there is to say about it. At this point its gone from constructive discussion to just a lot of repitition and whining. And yeah, I did mean not all the stories are true. Why do people have to nitpick? You obviously knew what I meant and I'm sure others are smart enough to get it too. The stories I was referring to we're the ones implying that GoDaddy wrote SOPA and that they gave themselves an exemption from it as if they're the only ones getting that exemption. My original comment was a perfectly valid and reasonable point. If you start cherry picking tiny little details you don't agree with or that aren't perfectly worded then you're missing the whole point. Let me state the point very concisely and maybe you'll find you actually agree with me: The GoDaddy stories have become repetitive and unproductive. The stories have been polluted with misinformation and false assumptions. We've said all there is to say and this is distracting us from stopping this bill from passing. Boycotting them is a great way to protest but let's talk about some other things we can do like we had been doing before the GoDaddy story broke. This whole thing reminds me of how politicians use news cycles to their advantage. Sometimes you can't get around bad press so you pick out one aspect of a story to get the public all riled up this distracting them from the real story. What is the real story? I have no idea and I'm sure I couldn't find out on HN as it stands now because we're caught up in an infinite loop of the "GoDaddy wrote SOPA and gave itself exemptions" story.