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South Korea has made cultural export part of their industrial policy. It's very different from Japan whose executives still don't care about non Japanese and wa

South Korea has made cultural export part of their industrial policy. It's very different from Japan whose executives still don't care about non Japanese and was 100% organic until CR saw a chance to profit off the difference but that still doesn't campare to SK. In my opinion it cheapens the medium to an extent. Not sure if the US does this too or if hollywood success is mostly organic. Certainly anime had seen the most organic growth of a market until CR, funi, Netflix et al ruined it.

yongjik 4y ago
TBH, I think it's more like the SK government trying to bank on the unexpected popularity of Korean culture, to which the government itself had contributed little. Frequently the government actively got in the way: the director Bong Joon-Ho and actor Song Kang-Ho, of Parasite fame, had been both on the infamous "cultural blacklist" maintained by Park Geun-hye's conservative government, for being "leftist artists." I agree that blatant money-grabbing attempts do cheapen the art from time to time, but you don't really need the government's help for that.
- Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago
  It seems SK has been in this game for a long time: >In 1997-1998, South Korea was in the midst of a financial crisis. It required a substantial loan from the International Monetary Fund to restructure its debt and it left South Korea, at the time, with a tarnished national brand. Fearing a brain drain and an inability to attract top talent, a Ministry of Culture (alongside tourism and sport) was created, with a specific department responsible for developing locally made and owned pop music, along with film, fashion, dance and art. This coincided with the end of state censorship (in 1996) and the removal of a cultural embargo with Japan in 2000, which led to an upsurge in Japanese consumption of Korean culture, prompting a need to meet the demand of the new audience. Music, along with other forms of culture, was seen as a way to accelerate economic recovery, so policies to support cultural development and investment to support the making and marketing of music were made. This was not funding. This was an investment. By 2011, K-Pop was finding new audiences around the world, including a sell out showcase at New York City’s Madison Square Garden.[0] From wikipedia: >President Kim Dae Jung put forth industrial policies supporting entertainment with the same regard as traditional industrial sectors such as manufacturing. Investments were made in both infrastructure and technology to support K-Pop, including concert halls and visual effects technology. In addition, government regulation of karaoke bars favored K-Pop.[6] >Since then, there has been a focus on developing soft power; the Ministry believes that by promoting Korean culture abroad, exports of other goods and services will also increase. As part of those efforts to move beyond developing a domestic industry and toward international success, the Ministry established an advisory committee and announced an international training school. Direct financial support of artists increased. In 2013, the Ministry allocated 319 billion won (US$280 million) for direct support of Hallyu (Korean Wave). Cultural exports increased at an annual rate of 10 percent as a result of these efforts.[7] If this aspect is overstated, at the very least the SK industry itself has focused on foreign markets: >During the late 90s, talent agencies began to market K-pop stars by implementing an idol business model used in J-pop,[91] where talents are selected and trained to appeal to a global audience through formal lessons or through residency programs.[2] While K-pop is compared to J-pop here, note that the comparison is the idol system, not the foreign marketing, which did not happen in Japan to my knowledge. Edit: perhaps I'm wrong, from my own link: >Despite popular internet speculation on the Korean government's financial support for the promotion of K-Pop, there are no figures to substantiate the speculation. In 2013, of the $230 million allocated for Hallyu, there are itemized contributions to the promotion of the Korean language, culture and food but no known figures for allocations directly to K-Pop. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/shainshapiro/2021/07/06/want-proof-investing-in-music-works-look-at-south-korea/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/shainshapiro/2021/07/06/want-pr... [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Culture,_Sports_and_Tourism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Culture,_Sports_an... [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-pop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-pop
  - yongjik 4y ago
    > In 1997-1998, South Korea was in the midst of a financial crisis. It required a substantial loan from the International Monetary Fund to restructure its debt and it left South Korea, at the time, with a tarnished national brand. Fearing a brain drain and an inability to attract top talent, a Ministry of Culture (alongside tourism and sport) was created ... Hmm, yeah, I think whoever wrote this glossed over details to get a nice narrative. Saying the "IMF crisis" (as it was called in Korea) tarnished national brand is a bit like saying 9/11 tarnished the reputation of US aviation safety. The crisis shook Korea to its core, companies were going belly-up left and right, white-collar "salarymen" became homeless, people killed themselves along with their own kids, and I can assure you, nobody was thinking about national brand. It was an economic apocalypse.
- black7375 4y ago
  There were several regulations, such as designating webtoons as youth harmful media when Lee Myung-bak took office. At that time, the artists held campaign NO CUT.
School-Cotton 4y ago
As someone who doesn’t follow this scene: what are “CR” and “funi” ?
- jquery 4y ago
  Crunchyroll and Funimation, two anime streaming and localization services. Think Netflix for anime. I like Korean webtoons (Tower of God most recently) but… eh. There’s nothing like Berserk or One Piece but for webtoons. Not yet. Ganbatte, Korea!
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  Crunchyroll and Funimation, the first of which is an anime streaming service and the latter of which was originally a North American anime licensor/localizer turned streaming service. They're now both owned by Sony and have been merged.

yongjik 4y ago

TBH, I think it's more like the SK government trying to bank on the unexpected popularity of Korean culture, to which the government itself had contributed little. Frequently the government actively got in the way: the director Bong Joon-Ho and actor Song Kang-Ho, of Parasite fame, had been both on the infamous "cultural blacklist" maintained by Park Geun-hye's conservative government, for being "leftist artists." I agree that blatant money-grabbing attempts do cheapen the art from time to time, but you don't really need the government's help for that.

Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago
It seems SK has been in this game for a long time: >In 1997-1998, South Korea was in the midst of a financial crisis. It required a substantial loan from the International Monetary Fund to restructure its debt and it left South Korea, at the time, with a tarnished national brand. Fearing a brain drain and an inability to attract top talent, a Ministry of Culture (alongside tourism and sport) was created, with a specific department responsible for developing locally made and owned pop music, along with film, fashion, dance and art. This coincided with the end of state censorship (in 1996) and the removal of a cultural embargo with Japan in 2000, which led to an upsurge in Japanese consumption of Korean culture, prompting a need to meet the demand of the new audience. Music, along with other forms of culture, was seen as a way to accelerate economic recovery, so policies to support cultural development and investment to support the making and marketing of music were made. This was not funding. This was an investment. By 2011, K-Pop was finding new audiences around the world, including a sell out showcase at New York City’s Madison Square Garden.[0] From wikipedia: >President Kim Dae Jung put forth industrial policies supporting entertainment with the same regard as traditional industrial sectors such as manufacturing. Investments were made in both infrastructure and technology to support K-Pop, including concert halls and visual effects technology. In addition, government regulation of karaoke bars favored K-Pop.[6] >Since then, there has been a focus on developing soft power; the Ministry believes that by promoting Korean culture abroad, exports of other goods and services will also increase. As part of those efforts to move beyond developing a domestic industry and toward international success, the Ministry established an advisory committee and announced an international training school. Direct financial support of artists increased. In 2013, the Ministry allocated 319 billion won (US$280 million) for direct support of Hallyu (Korean Wave). Cultural exports increased at an annual rate of 10 percent as a result of these efforts.[7] If this aspect is overstated, at the very least the SK industry itself has focused on foreign markets: >During the late 90s, talent agencies began to market K-pop stars by implementing an idol business model used in J-pop,[91] where talents are selected and trained to appeal to a global audience through formal lessons or through residency programs.[2] While K-pop is compared to J-pop here, note that the comparison is the idol system, not the foreign marketing, which did not happen in Japan to my knowledge. Edit: perhaps I'm wrong, from my own link: >Despite popular internet speculation on the Korean government's financial support for the promotion of K-Pop, there are no figures to substantiate the speculation. In 2013, of the $230 million allocated for Hallyu, there are itemized contributions to the promotion of the Korean language, culture and food but no known figures for allocations directly to K-Pop. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/shainshapiro/2021/07/06/want-proof-investing-in-music-works-look-at-south-korea/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/shainshapiro/2021/07/06/want-pr... [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Culture,_Sports_and_Tourism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Culture,_Sports_an... [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-pop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-pop
- yongjik 4y ago
  > In 1997-1998, South Korea was in the midst of a financial crisis. It required a substantial loan from the International Monetary Fund to restructure its debt and it left South Korea, at the time, with a tarnished national brand. Fearing a brain drain and an inability to attract top talent, a Ministry of Culture (alongside tourism and sport) was created ... Hmm, yeah, I think whoever wrote this glossed over details to get a nice narrative. Saying the "IMF crisis" (as it was called in Korea) tarnished national brand is a bit like saying 9/11 tarnished the reputation of US aviation safety. The crisis shook Korea to its core, companies were going belly-up left and right, white-collar "salarymen" became homeless, people killed themselves along with their own kids, and I can assure you, nobody was thinking about national brand. It was an economic apocalypse.
black7375 4y ago
There were several regulations, such as designating webtoons as youth harmful media when Lee Myung-bak took office. At that time, the artists held campaign NO CUT.

School-Cotton 4y ago

As someone who doesn’t follow this scene: what are “CR” and “funi” ?

jquery 4y ago
Crunchyroll and Funimation, two anime streaming and localization services. Think Netflix for anime. I like Korean webtoons (Tower of God most recently) but… eh. There’s nothing like Berserk or One Piece but for webtoons. Not yet. Ganbatte, Korea!
kitsunesoba 4y ago
Crunchyroll and Funimation, the first of which is an anime streaming service and the latter of which was originally a North American anime licensor/localizer turned streaming service. They're now both owned by Sony and have been merged.