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> in this particular case, it’s a story that exists within a social power dynamic that unjustly ascribes authority to medical knowledge. No it isn’t. It is ask
by runarberg 4y ago
> in this particular case, it’s a story that exists within a social power dynamic that unjustly ascribes authority to medical knowledge.
No it isn’t. It is asking a critical question on prejudice and other biases that exist among the medical profession and can affect their work. In this case a social scientist looks at population data and asks a question is obesity dangerous because of the lifestyle of the obese person, or is there some societal bias that prevails inside the medical profession which increases the chance of fat people being mis-diegnosed, i.e. a patient really has some underlying illness that can be treated, but a doctor will not see it because of their bias and rather prescribe a lifestyle change to the patient.
This is not an idea laundering but an important task of social scientists.
> I was one of the extreme "trust the science" people, until I joined a startup that worked with academia. The amount of pettiness, vindictiveness, cutthroat power games I have seen surpassed even the most hardcore of startups.
You need to apply this to medical scientists as well as social scientists, because it is equally applicable. In fact is a job of social scientists describe this dynamic and point out where it can be dangerous.
EDIT: Your source is actually one of the anti-woke camp who resigned from Portland State because apparently universities are a “Social Justice factory”. I’m not surprised that he has a problem with people taking a critical look on societal effects of diversity of body types. You should take what he says with a pinch of salt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Boghossian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Boghossian
- zozbot234 4y agoThat's a really nice question! We could address it by looking at places where obesity has significantly increased in recent decades, independently of any widespread access to the medical system or advocacy of "lifestyle changes". And it looks like we can actually see real dangers in such cases from obesity, that can't be easily explained by iatrogenic causes. The lesson is there's a difference between posing a question, and having a bias for answering that question in a prejudiced way (blaming "privileged" doctors for adverse outcomes).
- wizofaus 4y ago> i.e. a patient really has some underlying illness that can be treated, but a doctor will not see it because of their bias and rather prescribe a lifestyle change to the patient. Or you have those who won't even see a doctor about potentially serious medical conditions because they assume the doctor will put it down to excess weight and not bother diagnosing them properly. It's easy to be skeptical that's such a big issue if you don't struggle with your weight, but from what I've heard 2nd hand it likely at least partly explains why hospitalisation for particular conditions is more likely among overweight people.