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In this conversation from July 2021 he said he’s going to write his own email server, which I would be very interested in: https://corecursive.com/066-sqlite-w

In this conversation from July 2021 he said he’s going to write his own email server, which I would be very interested in: https://corecursive.com/066-sqlite-with-richard-hipp/ https://corecursive.com/066-sqlite-with-richard-hipp/ I’m going to write my own mail server. I was making notes on that even as we were setting up this call. That’s a big problem, and that’s at least as difficult if not more difficult than writing a database engine, but I don’t want to be beholden to Gmail. I don’t want them controlling my destiny. I don’t want them controlling the record of all of my conversations. I want to control that myself, and so I’m going to go through a lot of pain and a lot of work and a lot of effort to come up with some solution that I can control myself. I can go out and lease a virtual machine out there in the cloud and run it myself and not depend on a third party to control my email.

mdaniel 4y ago
> I’m going to write my own mail server. I don’t want to be beholden to Gmail. Wowzers, that's some RMS-"Web Over Email"-level "I have privacy concerns so I'm going to reinvent $foo" https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
- eesmith 4y ago
  How do you go from "control" (used several times) to "privacy"? Hipp not only wrote SQLite, which uses his own parser generator (Lemon) but he also wrote his own version control system (Fossil), and his own editor. Perhaps it's more likely that he wants to be in control of the things which most closely affect him, rather than this being a privacy issue?
  - CRConrad 4y ago
    Yeah, but aren't there lots of open-source e-mail systems already that he could just set up his own instance of and administer for himself -- thus achieving both the "control" and the "privacy" goal -- in stead of writing a new one?
adql 4y ago
Some kind of "all in one" where you have SQLite file with config (aliases/accounts etc) + maybe SQLite file per account for storage + some sane SMTP/IMAP config with DKIM and all the other crap spammers implement anyway but servers will spam you for if yu don't have it would be useful. I've recently did a small server for private use (after google yeeted the free tier) and let's say it does require a bit of mail knowledge to set it up right. That being said there is probably some container doing it, surely "easy mail selfhosting" isn't a new problem

mdaniel 4y ago

> I’m going to write my own mail server. I don’t want to be beholden to Gmail. Wowzers, that's some RMS-"Web Over Email"-level "I have privacy concerns so I'm going to reinvent $foo" https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html

eesmith 4y ago
How do you go from "control" (used several times) to "privacy"? Hipp not only wrote SQLite, which uses his own parser generator (Lemon) but he also wrote his own version control system (Fossil), and his own editor. Perhaps it's more likely that he wants to be in control of the things which most closely affect him, rather than this being a privacy issue?
- CRConrad 4y ago
  Yeah, but aren't there lots of open-source e-mail systems already that he could just set up his own instance of and administer for himself -- thus achieving both the "control" and the "privacy" goal -- in stead of writing a new one?

adql 4y ago

Some kind of "all in one" where you have SQLite file with config (aliases/accounts etc) + maybe SQLite file per account for storage + some sane SMTP/IMAP config with DKIM and all the other crap spammers implement anyway but servers will spam you for if yu don't have it would be useful. I've recently did a small server for private use (after google yeeted the free tier) and let's say it does require a bit of mail knowledge to set it up right. That being said there is probably some container doing it, surely "easy mail selfhosting" isn't a new problem