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Oh really? Where are these widely used/popular Android desktop and/or laptop machines?

bombcar 4y ago
They’re called phones and they’re killing the windows desktop like Linux users wanted in the 90s. It’s a very monkey’s paw scenario.
- actually_a_dog 4y ago
  That’s simply untrue. I have a phone, a tablet, and a laptop. I do different things on each. None has supplanted the others; they all supplement each other.
  - viraptor 4y ago
    You do that, but it doesn't generalise. Mobile phone ownership exceeded laptop/desktop ownership in the us in the last 2 years and the latter is in a slow constant decline. A lot of people are going to be happy with just the phone in the future.
    - bombcar 4y ago
      We went from computers being very rare (early on I remember maybe two families out of the whole class had one at home) to heading to above one per person (everyone had a laptop and there would be a desktop, too, or more) during college and now we're headed back towards "about one desktop/laptop per house or a bit more" as most people have phones.
    - actually_a_dog 4y ago
      Citation needed. Moreover, what's the evidence that those that make do with only phones would even want to purchase a tablet or laptop? Edit: also, conflating phones with "desktops" is just being glib and disingenous.
      - viraptor 4y ago
        > Citation needed Literally the top results for US smartphone ownership. You can do it. > that those that make do with only phones would even want to purchase a tablet or laptop? That's the whole point - they don't need / want one. But given the services that everyone needs are moving online, everyone needs some level of internet access. This effectively moves windows users to Linux/Android as discussed upthread.
        actually_a_dog 4y ago
        I see. So you're not actually going to even try and answer the question? No evidence? Just "I'm going to conflate desktops and phones to make my point?"
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
  Accidentally Android spies on you to the extent Microsoft couldn't even dream of in their evilest of dreams. And there is no way to root/control it to prevent that spying. Unlike Windows.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    > And there is no way to root/control it to prevent that spying. Can you explain what you mean here? How do AOSP ROMs subject themselves to Google's spying, much less the meticulously-designed privacy distributions?
  - ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
    > Accidentally Android spies on you to the extent Microsoft couldn't even dream of in their evilest of dreams. And there is no way to root/control it to prevent that spying. Unlike Windows. https://www.grapheneos.org/ https://www.grapheneos.org/
    - EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
      I know, but nobody uses it, for a reason.
Sebb767 4y ago
I know a lot of people who use Tablets as their main driver and don't have a PC (or only use it for edge cases). Not even for ideological reasons, it just works for them. It's not universal, but it's not rare, either.
betaby 4y ago
Chromebooks I suppose. https://www.gsmarena.com/pc_and_tablets_see_strong_sales_performance_in_q1_2022_chromebook_sales_plummet_60_globally-news-54201.php https://www.gsmarena.com/pc_and_tablets_see_strong_sales_per...
- _Algernon_ 4y ago
  They may run Android apps, but they are not Android devices. By that logic, my Linux machine is a Windows machine, because it has Wine/Proton.

They’re called phones and they’re killing the windows desktop like Linux users wanted in the 90s. It’s a very monkey’s paw scenario.

actually_a_dog 4y ago
That’s simply untrue. I have a phone, a tablet, and a laptop. I do different things on each. None has supplanted the others; they all supplement each other.
- viraptor 4y ago
  You do that, but it doesn't generalise. Mobile phone ownership exceeded laptop/desktop ownership in the us in the last 2 years and the latter is in a slow constant decline. A lot of people are going to be happy with just the phone in the future.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    We went from computers being very rare (early on I remember maybe two families out of the whole class had one at home) to heading to above one per person (everyone had a laptop and there would be a desktop, too, or more) during college and now we're headed back towards "about one desktop/laptop per house or a bit more" as most people have phones.
  - actually_a_dog 4y ago
    Citation needed. Moreover, what's the evidence that those that make do with only phones would even want to purchase a tablet or laptop? Edit: also, conflating phones with "desktops" is just being glib and disingenous.
    - viraptor 4y ago
      > Citation needed Literally the top results for US smartphone ownership. You can do it. > that those that make do with only phones would even want to purchase a tablet or laptop? That's the whole point - they don't need / want one. But given the services that everyone needs are moving online, everyone needs some level of internet access. This effectively moves windows users to Linux/Android as discussed upthread.
      - actually_a_dog 4y ago
        I see. So you're not actually going to even try and answer the question? No evidence? Just "I'm going to conflate desktops and phones to make my point?"
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
Accidentally Android spies on you to the extent Microsoft couldn't even dream of in their evilest of dreams. And there is no way to root/control it to prevent that spying. Unlike Windows.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  > And there is no way to root/control it to prevent that spying. Can you explain what you mean here? How do AOSP ROMs subject themselves to Google's spying, much less the meticulously-designed privacy distributions?
- ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
  > Accidentally Android spies on you to the extent Microsoft couldn't even dream of in their evilest of dreams. And there is no way to root/control it to prevent that spying. Unlike Windows. https://www.grapheneos.org/ https://www.grapheneos.org/
  - EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
    I know, but nobody uses it, for a reason.

Sebb767 4y ago

I know a lot of people who use Tablets as their main driver and don't have a PC (or only use it for edge cases). Not even for ideological reasons, it just works for them. It's not universal, but it's not rare, either.

betaby 4y ago

Chromebooks I suppose. https://www.gsmarena.com/pc_and_tablets_see_strong_sales_performance_in_q1_2022_chromebook_sales_plummet_60_globally-news-54201.php https://www.gsmarena.com/pc_and_tablets_see_strong_sales_per...

_Algernon_ 4y ago
They may run Android apps, but they are not Android devices. By that logic, my Linux machine is a Windows machine, because it has Wine/Proton.