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I pay for Mullvad and also have Google One. I use Google One for times that I have to connect to an unknown WiFi network but don't care about if Google knows it

I pay for Mullvad and also have Google One. I use Google One for times that I have to connect to an unknown WiFi network but don't care about if Google knows it is me. I use Mullvad when I want some confidence in not being tracked.

chiefalchemist 4y ago
Why not Mullvad all the time?
- worldsavior 4y ago
  Probably to separate identities.
- jonas-w 4y ago
  Because mullvad exit IP's may be more suspicious than other vpn providers IP addresses.
  - eightails 4y ago
    I'm curious, why would that be the case?
    - sneak 4y ago
      Because Mullvad allows for totally anonymous payment, and is thus preferred by the nefarious. I assume Google only allows you to pay with a payment card as usual, and even getting a Google account requires a phone number now. I use Mullvad all of the time. Some of their locations' public exit IPs are blocked for some/all services. Can't log in to HN from some of them, can't use Etsy at all from some of them, can't checkout on eBay from some of them, etc.
      - eightails 4y ago
        I guess that makes sense. I use Mullvad as well, and anecdotally it seemed to have a similar rate of blacklisted endpoints to Nord. I guess in Nord's case maybe its ubiquity is the problem.
    - jonas-w 4y ago
      The same reason why tor exit nodes are blocked/limited by services. You have the anonymity (if your opsec is good) and endless bandwith. So these will very likely be used for shady/illegal stuff. To do this with google or other providers would be not very smart, the majority of people will use these only for hiding your traffic from your isp, your local network or geo location spoofing and the percentage of suspicious activity from their IP ranges will be very small.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  Google already has my personal information. Using my Google account while logged into Mullvad isn't a good idea cause then I leak that to Google and whoever else they share data with.
class4behavior 4y ago
>but don't care about if Google knows it is me This is not what privacy primarily is about, though. Taking Cypher's choice is also not some profound path. While privacy is indeed a measure protecting one against becoming a victim or a target of malicious intent. First and foremost, however, privacy determines who is in control and has power over you through (access to) knowledge related to you. It's a human right that shapes all aspects of any society, not just some best practice like locking one's door. The problem is people don't think or care much about far away ills, that's why it is too easy for us to dismiss and normalize the degradation of our rights.

chiefalchemist 4y ago

Why not Mullvad all the time?

worldsavior 4y ago
Probably to separate identities.
jonas-w 4y ago
Because mullvad exit IP's may be more suspicious than other vpn providers IP addresses.
- eightails 4y ago
  I'm curious, why would that be the case?
  - sneak 4y ago
    Because Mullvad allows for totally anonymous payment, and is thus preferred by the nefarious. I assume Google only allows you to pay with a payment card as usual, and even getting a Google account requires a phone number now. I use Mullvad all of the time. Some of their locations' public exit IPs are blocked for some/all services. Can't log in to HN from some of them, can't use Etsy at all from some of them, can't checkout on eBay from some of them, etc.
    - eightails 4y ago
      I guess that makes sense. I use Mullvad as well, and anecdotally it seemed to have a similar rate of blacklisted endpoints to Nord. I guess in Nord's case maybe its ubiquity is the problem.
  - jonas-w 4y ago
    The same reason why tor exit nodes are blocked/limited by services. You have the anonymity (if your opsec is good) and endless bandwith. So these will very likely be used for shady/illegal stuff. To do this with google or other providers would be not very smart, the majority of people will use these only for hiding your traffic from your isp, your local network or geo location spoofing and the percentage of suspicious activity from their IP ranges will be very small.
encryptluks2 4y ago
Google already has my personal information. Using my Google account while logged into Mullvad isn't a good idea cause then I leak that to Google and whoever else they share data with.

class4behavior 4y ago

>but don't care about if Google knows it is me This is not what privacy primarily is about, though. Taking Cypher's choice is also not some profound path. While privacy is indeed a measure protecting one against becoming a victim or a target of malicious intent. First and foremost, however, privacy determines who is in control and has power over you through (access to) knowledge related to you. It's a human right that shapes all aspects of any society, not just some best practice like locking one's door. The problem is people don't think or care much about far away ills, that's why it is too easy for us to dismiss and normalize the degradation of our rights.