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> people who want a premium phone get an iPhone and everybody else gets an android. 12-15 months ago I'd agree, but the latest crop of Android phones compete q

> people who want a premium phone get an iPhone and everybody else gets an android. 12-15 months ago I'd agree, but the latest crop of Android phones compete quite handily in "premiumness".

notatoad 15y ago
Please read the second part of my above comment. The premiumness of the phone is irrelevant as long as the salespeople in the stores are still selling android as "the phone that isn't an iPhone"
- michaelcampbell 15y ago
  > The premiumness of the phone is irrelevant as long as the salespeople in the stores are still selling android as "the phone that isn't an iPhone" I actually haven't seen that. Again, perhaps in the past, but these days there's a lot of knowledge about Android. Perhaps your experiences have been different and I will readily acknowledge I may have been lucky, but your assertions don't match what I've seen. <shrug>
  - notatoad 15y ago
    I think you probably got lucky, but you're right that android knowledge is growing and and there now exists a good sized group of people who will specifically seek out an android phone when the time comes to upgrade. But for the large majority of people, their first android phone was purchased because they just wanted a cheap generic smartphone and that meant android. And for the large group of people that is still switching from feature phones to smartphones, android is still the default cheap phone, and iPhone is still the default premier phone. Windows phone's target market is fans of windows phone, but they are trying to build that group exclusively through advertising. Apple built their market of apple fans through the iPod and other products. Android built a market of android fans through the cheap phones to feed sales of premium android phones. Windows phone needs a feeder market if it wants to be a premium product.
- MatthewPhillips 15y ago
  This is pretty much my line of thinking. Being 3rd in anything is difficult. I think it's easy for us humans to conceptualize 2 choices and see their differences; it's much harder when you throw a 3rd into the mix. You like Coke or you like Pepsi. Coke is a tradition, a staple; Pepsi is young and hip. These are cliches, but they affect consumers on a subconscious level. Being an alternative can sometimes still be profitable though, but you have to find your niche. Maybe Microsoft hasn't conceded WP7 to its niche yet.

> people who want a premium phone get an iPhone and everybody else gets an android. 12-15 months ago I'd agree, but the latest crop of Android phones compete quite handily in "premiumness".

notatoad 15y ago

Please read the second part of my above comment. The premiumness of the phone is irrelevant as long as the salespeople in the stores are still selling android as "the phone that isn't an iPhone"

michaelcampbell 15y ago
> The premiumness of the phone is irrelevant as long as the salespeople in the stores are still selling android as "the phone that isn't an iPhone" I actually haven't seen that. Again, perhaps in the past, but these days there's a lot of knowledge about Android. Perhaps your experiences have been different and I will readily acknowledge I may have been lucky, but your assertions don't match what I've seen. <shrug>
- notatoad 15y ago
  I think you probably got lucky, but you're right that android knowledge is growing and and there now exists a good sized group of people who will specifically seek out an android phone when the time comes to upgrade. But for the large majority of people, their first android phone was purchased because they just wanted a cheap generic smartphone and that meant android. And for the large group of people that is still switching from feature phones to smartphones, android is still the default cheap phone, and iPhone is still the default premier phone. Windows phone's target market is fans of windows phone, but they are trying to build that group exclusively through advertising. Apple built their market of apple fans through the iPod and other products. Android built a market of android fans through the cheap phones to feed sales of premium android phones. Windows phone needs a feeder market if it wants to be a premium product.
MatthewPhillips 15y ago
This is pretty much my line of thinking. Being 3rd in anything is difficult. I think it's easy for us humans to conceptualize 2 choices and see their differences; it's much harder when you throw a 3rd into the mix. You like Coke or you like Pepsi. Coke is a tradition, a staple; Pepsi is young and hip. These are cliches, but they affect consumers on a subconscious level. Being an alternative can sometimes still be profitable though, but you have to find your niche. Maybe Microsoft hasn't conceded WP7 to its niche yet.