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> Nothing beside remains. This is wrong. The influence is far wider than you realise. The PS/2 standard for keyboards and mice is perhaps the only one that b
by lproven 4y ago
> Nothing beside remains.
This is wrong. The influence is far wider than you realise.
The PS/2 standard for keyboards and mice is perhaps the only one that bears the name PS/2 but it is very far from the only standard that came out of the PS/2 range.
VGA is a PS/2 standard.
The VGA port and the still-ubiquitous SVGA plug and the SVGA modes is a PS/2 standard.
My Core i7 nVME-only native-UEFI laptop still has both these ports on its vendor-supplied docking station.
3.5" HD 1.4MB floppy drives are a PS/2 standard. TTBOMK the 3.5" hard disk bay is also a PS/2 range innovation: while tower PS/2 machines came with 5.25" hard disks in the early models, the smaller desktop machines came with 3.5" hard disks. That was certainly the first time I ever saw a 3.5" hard disk and I vividly remember being boggled by how small it was.
PS/2s predated the rise of CD drives and optical media. The desktop ones didn't have 5.25" bays. That drove the success of 3.5" hard disks.
But the floppy drive was more influential. If you have an old PC with a floppy drive, then it's a PS/2 format floppy drive.
More to the point, the PS/2 range is the direct reason that Microsoft Windows was a success. The widespread success of Windows is what created the conditions for Linux to be written.
The reasons that the PC industry exists and thrives today is the IBM PS/2 range.
I had to try to explain this here on HN recently, as in just this autumn, and while I can't find that comment, here's the blog post I made from it:
https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/87108.html https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/87108.html
And that itself caused considerable discussion here:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33019019 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33019019
- teddyh 4y agoAll right, yes, PS/2 spearheaded many more widely-used technologies than the keyboard and mouse port. Plan 9 also pioneered many things now widely used, including UTF-8. Now, does this in any way invalidate the analogy? If not, why go to such lengths in disproving a minor detail? The topic was Plan 9, and I made a comparison to IBM PS/2. Why write a minor essay about some detail about PS/2 which I got wrong, when that wasn’t the topic?
- lproven 4y agoSee the quote of yours that I started with. You are saying nothing else remains of the PS/2 than its mouse/keyboard port. That is not true. Lots of things from the PS/2 remain apart from that. That's it. That is the point. Not metaphors, not concepts, not influence. You said it only left 1 thing behind. It didn't. It shaped the whole PC industry from then on. All PCs after the PS/2 used PS/2 ports and PS/2 displays and PS/2 format storage media. OK, I concede, the stuff about the PS/2 driving Windows is a different issue: that's the inverse, the negative, the shape it left. But the ports and the media still stand.
- teddyh 4y agoYes, but how does this relate to Plan 9?