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> Grid assets are measured by power That seems of limited use without knowing for how long the power can be supplied. 1GW for 1 second is pretty useless. 1GW f
by tromp 4y ago
> Grid assets are measured by power
That seems of limited use without knowing for how long the power can be supplied. 1GW for 1 second is pretty useless. 1GW for a minute not much better.
Most people would say that 1GW lasting a day is more storage capacity than 10GW lasting only an hour.
Wouldn't batteries optimized for power take the form of supercapacitors [1] instead?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercapacitor#Comparison_with_other_storage_technologies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercapacitor#Comparison_with...
- epistasis 4y agoIt turns out that the resources that get deployed in the grid are useful ones rather than something that deploys 1GW for 1 second. So referring to the power capacity, and dispatching based on power capacity, is how to make decisions when operators bus into the grid. At any moment, a power source may trip off, or decide that the price they are being paid is not high enough to justify continued operation. The grid is an amazing, absolutely massive, machine for matching power at the generation and load sides. Power, of both the real sort and the reactive sort, are the name of the game. As far as optimization for power over minimal capacity, the best use case for supercapacitors might be frequency regulation, but batteries have proven to be superior for that particular use case, with a few fly wheels also taking part.
- nl 4y ago"Seconds" of capacity might be useful for "primary frequency response" but not for any of the other functions listed in table 1 of https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy19osti/74426.pdf https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy19osti/74426.pdf. Primary frequency response is only seen as important in a limited number of markets in the US (see that table).