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Pretty much every large-scale renewables project in Germany is blocked by this bullshit. I don't believe in environmentalists anymore. They're the biggest block

by Sakos 4y ago

Pretty much every large-scale renewables project in Germany is blocked by this bullshit. I don't believe in environmentalists anymore. They're the biggest blockers to actual progress in combating things like climate change.

hgomersall 4y ago
Isn't the problem just that the term is being used inappropriately?
epolanski 4y ago
Facts dismiss your post. Germany has consistently beat renewable targets in years advance and 50% of their gross electricity consumption comes from renewables. It's baffling really to read political comments on ycombinator.
- andrepd 4y ago
  What about nuclear? If I understand correctly, there was nuclear capacity being closed while coal is still burnt in substantial numbers.
  - nibbleshifter 4y ago
    The German green party is against nuclear for spurious reasons, and too proud to admit wrongness.
  - hakre 4y ago
    Nuclear is commonly not considered a renewable, and the nuclear capacity was already EOL but for some power plants they went over the original closing date so was prologued, not closed. Coal is on the rise. Gas is on the rise.
- RandomLensman 4y ago
  Both could be true: most projects facing initial blocking but eventually getting done. Would be a function of pipeline and lead time.
- hakre 4y ago
  Err, don't the more current facts dismiss your post as well towards what you were commenting for? Coal is going up. Gas is going up. Both not renewable.
- Sakos 4y ago
  It's baffling really to see comments like this, honestly. You're completely misrepresenting our progress with renewables and how both our government and environmentalists have hindered our development of both the industry and real projects.
_fizz_buzz_ 4y ago
The "environmentalists" blocking windturbines are not the same environmentalists that are in favor of renewables.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  Precisely. For example: https://theintercept.com/2021/12/08/oil-industry-wind-farm-prevent/ https://theintercept.com/2021/12/08/oil-industry-wind-farm-p...

by Sakos 4y ago

hgomersall 4y ago

Isn't the problem just that the term is being used inappropriately?

epolanski 4y ago

Facts dismiss your post. Germany has consistently beat renewable targets in years advance and 50% of their gross electricity consumption comes from renewables. It's baffling really to read political comments on ycombinator.

andrepd 4y ago
What about nuclear? If I understand correctly, there was nuclear capacity being closed while coal is still burnt in substantial numbers.
- nibbleshifter 4y ago
  The German green party is against nuclear for spurious reasons, and too proud to admit wrongness.
- hakre 4y ago
  Nuclear is commonly not considered a renewable, and the nuclear capacity was already EOL but for some power plants they went over the original closing date so was prologued, not closed. Coal is on the rise. Gas is on the rise.
RandomLensman 4y ago
Both could be true: most projects facing initial blocking but eventually getting done. Would be a function of pipeline and lead time.
hakre 4y ago
Err, don't the more current facts dismiss your post as well towards what you were commenting for? Coal is going up. Gas is going up. Both not renewable.
Sakos 4y ago
It's baffling really to see comments like this, honestly. You're completely misrepresenting our progress with renewables and how both our government and environmentalists have hindered our development of both the industry and real projects.

_fizz_buzz_ 4y ago

The "environmentalists" blocking windturbines are not the same environmentalists that are in favor of renewables.

ceejayoz 4y ago
Precisely. For example: https://theintercept.com/2021/12/08/oil-industry-wind-farm-prevent/ https://theintercept.com/2021/12/08/oil-industry-wind-farm-p...